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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:04 pm 
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Rory Read:
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“That era is done. There’s enough processing power on every laptop on the planet today.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-in ... 15741.html

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there is a clear shift in thinking that appears to be moving away from Intel being the focus to the building threat from ARM chip makers, including Nvidia. Instead of being focused on performance, AMD appears to be looking much more on cost and indirectly join a force that is building up against Intel - and especially against exclusionary marketing moves such as the Ultrabook pitch.

“I think we come in and steal the bacon around the whole thin-and-light movement and capture a significant portion of the opportunity there,” Read said.

Of course, he recognizes that AMD has to change as a whole and traditional weaknesses have to be addressed.

“It can be a very different AMD going forward, but we have a long way to go,” he said. “There’s been a passion for innovation but there needs to be a passion for delivery and a passion for the customers.”

That transformation may be done by 2015, according to Read. Given the executive changes we have seen in recent months, it is somewhat apparent that the old blood of AMD has been flushed out and replaced with a new way of thinking.


For the CEO with no plan B against Nvidia, it doesn't look like he really knows what he is doing
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:45 pm 
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"That era is done. There’s enough processing power on every laptop on the planet today."

And if AMD was ahead of Intel in the speed department, Mr. Read would be saying that speed is all important in todays demanding market for moar moar moar powerz.

Has he no clue that everyone knows he is full of bull----?

I wonder if the stockholders know? :D



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:46 pm 
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Rory Read wrote:
“That era is done. There’s enough processing power on every laptop on the planet today."

(ROFLMAO) (hh)
He obviously wants to go down in history as a comedian if that quote is any indication.



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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-0 ... sales-race

This is the original interview .. i quoted THG because i was in a hurry
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He had zero clue about Nvidia's Kepler. That is what blows my mind. That he could be so arrogant to think that AMD would again have the market to themselves for 6-8 months. Even i could figure that something was coming from Nvidia. And in my preview, i insisted that IF AMD was going to follow their silly strategy as "predator" - they had better have respin "insurance" ... If AMD was able to launch HD 7980 within a month or so of the GTX 680 (as any sensible strategy planner would do), they would be doing great instead of bumbling with pricing and making themselves look bad.

Look at this quote from Bloomberg. Mr Read wants to be "first" to market - did he not learning anything from being "first" against Nvidia? Twice?
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Advanced Micro Devices Inc. Chief Executive Officer Rory Read said his company’s success will hinge on getting products to market more quickly as Qualcomm (QCOM) (QCOM) Inc. and other phone-chip makers move into computing.


Bad strategy. And if they are going to go against Qualcomm, they better execute flawlessly. They have no experience in that area. And they are not executing flawlessly. The customer experience on the video card side is lacking in drivers and support. No HD3D to compare with 3D Vision. No physics. No OpenCL compute support compared to CUDA. Where do they start?

The only way that AMD might succeed is as a much smaller company filling a niche with APUs .. that IS the direction that they appear to be taking. And Nvidia already has GRID - they and their partners are *committed* to it while AMD is still talking the talk. For years.

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Computing is increasingly moving to the cloud -- data centers that supply services over the Internet -- creating a need for chips that are tuned for displaying video and other media and don’t need to crunch large amounts of information, Read said. It’s shifting the competition to a race for chips that contain multiple functions, exactly where phone-chip makers excel, he said.

Qualcomm, Nvidia Corp. (NVDA) (NVDA) and other makers of chips based on ARM Holdings Plc (ARM) technology will gain an entry into the PC market later this year when Microsoft Corp.’s Windows 8 debuts in versions capable of working on the type of chip which dominates the mobile-phone industry.

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For now, Read is touting the company’s new line of chips, called Trinity, whose designs predate his tenure at the company. The former International Business Machines Corp. and Lenovo Group Ltd. (992) executive took over as AMD’s chief executive in August after a seven-month search to replace his ousted predecessor Dirk Meyer.

Trinity is one of the first steps in AMD’s attempts to produce processors that combine multiple functions rather than an emphasis on speed. Almost half of Trinity is devoted to graphics processing, something Read said will be important in displaying and enhancing processing work done elsewhere, in cloud computing.

The new chip design also has one model that uses less than half the power of current processors, making it better suited for the thinnest and lightest laptops. That will give AMD-based notebooks the ability to go all day on a single battery charge. Trinity will also have 70 percent better graphics performance that comparable Intel chips, AMD said.
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Delivering Trinity will also help AMD prove to suppliers that it’s becoming more reliable. It won’t suffer from the supply shortages that held back sales of its predecessor, Read said. In addition, AMD’s pricing means that computer makers will be able to produce thin and light machines that are cheaper than the Ultrabooks being pushed by Intel, he said.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:31 pm 
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First to market means nothing. First out the starting blocks means nothing. The only things that matter is first across the finish line and first position on the medal podium.



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It isn't even that important to be first in smartphones. Does Apple care to be "first"?

You don't want to be later than your competitors if all you have to show is the "same thing". But if you are respected for innovation and make a decent product, your customers will wait for your next release. Nvidia has that reputation; so does Apple and Intel. Their customers don't jump ship because someone is first with something new.

As i said, bad strategy for AMD.


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i'm not sure if he means "first to market". Let's analyze this:
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Rory Read said his company’s success will hinge on getting products to market more quickly

Perhaps he means that AMD has been too slow in the past
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Delivering Trinity will also help AMD (AMD) (AMD) prove to suppliers that it’s becoming more reliable. It won’t suffer from the supply shortages that held back sales of its predecessor, Read said.


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I thought AMD proved their reliability to suppliers back around the Phenom 1 timeframe, where suppliers got all the chips and retail consumers could barley get any?

Rorey will say and do anything to get a sale.



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The thing is, i don't see the plan. i didn't see it against Nvidia when Tahiti launched; it was hard to believe that they weren't working on a respin concurrently with the original launch. And i don't see it now. Just promises that have turned out to be empty - or those that turned back on AMD to bite them - like "aggressive" pricing appearing that their own customers were prey in those 3 months when they had premium pricing on Tahiti.

And even now, they are way too slow to respond to GTX 680, never mind GTX 670. What happened to the 7990? Why does pricing take so long to be adjusted? Clearly the 670 and 680 is available now.


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I thought that this was old news and that AMD said this a long time ago.

Seeing as I saw a boost going from a Phenom II x4 to a 2500k, I would say that their claims of "good enough performance" are nonsense. It's too bad. Intel is left competing with themselves.


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