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SirPauly
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Post subject: Re: Jan 1 2012 back seat passengers must be buckled up  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:24 am |
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Imho,
I don' trust power in the hands of powerful private share holders that manipulated their way into creating the Federal Reserve. I believe the Federal Reserve shouldn't have any private entity and controlled by "we the people" The Federal Reserve is considered a monopoly and a Cartel.
To say the Federal Reserve has no influence is ludicrous based on the Rockefeller family with their creation of Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission -- and the ones with power positions throughout government and powerful corporations are members.
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SirPauly
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Post subject: Re: Jan 1 2012 back seat passengers must be buckled up  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:18 am |
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1/4 of the worlds wealth, or the "money trust" secretly did go to Jeckyll Island to create the Federal Reserve Act and if Congress knew these meetings were going on and the "money trust" was creating the Federal Reserve, well, it surly wouldn't of passed but don't trust me -- trust one of the members of the original money trust: Quote: Frank Vanderlip who was at the meeting wrote an article that appeared in the Saturday Evening Post on February 9, 1935 and I'd like to read for you just a short excerpt from that article. This is what Vanderlipsaid: "I do not feel it is any exaggeration to speak of our secret expedition to Jekyll Island as the occasion of the actual conception of what eventually became the Federal Reserve System. We were told to leave our last names behind us.We were told further that we should avoid dining together on the night of our departure. We were instructed to come one at a time and as unobtrusively aspossible to the railroad terminal on the New Jersey littoral of the Hudson where Senator Aldrich's private car would be in readiness attached to the rear-end of a train to the south. Once aboard the private car we began to observe the taboo that had been fixed on last names. We addressed one another as Ben, Paul, Nelson and Abe. Davison and I adopted even deeper disguises abandoning our first names. On the theory that we were always right, he became Wilbur and I became Orville after those two aviation pioneers the Wright brothers. The servants and train crew may have known the identities of one or two of us, but they did not know all and it was the names of all printed together that would've made our mysterious journey significant in Washington, in Wall Street, even in London. Discovery we knew simply must not happen."Why not? why the secrecy? what's the big deal about a group of bankers getting together in private and talking about banking or even banking legislation. And the answer is provided by Vanderlip himself in the same article. He said: "If it were to be exposed publicly that our particular group had gotten together and written a banking bill, that bill would have no chance whatever of passage by Congress."Why not? Because the purpose of the bill was to break the grip of the moneytrust and it was written by the money trust. And had that fact been known at the get-go, we would never have had a Federal Reserve System because as Vanderlip said it would have had no chance of passage at all by Congress. So it was essential to keep that whole thing a secret as it has remained a secret evento this day. Not exactly a secret that you couldn't discover because anybody can go to the library and dig this out, but it is certainly not taught in textbooks. We don't know any of this in the official literature from the Federal Reserve System because that was like asking the fox to build the hen house and install the security system.That was the reason for the secrecy at the meeting. Now we know something very important about the Federal Reserve that we didn't know before, but there'smuch more to it than that. Consider the composition of this group. Here we had the Morgans, the Rockefellers, Kuhn, Loeb & Company, the Rothschilds and the Warburgs. Anything strange about that mixture? These were competitors. Thesewere the major competitorsin the field of investment and banking in those days;these were the giants. Prior to this period they were beating their heads against each other, blood all over the battlefield fighting for dominance in the financial markets of the world. Not only in New York but London, Paris and everywhere. And here they are sitting around a table coming to an agreement of some kind.What's going on here? We need to ask a few questions. I highly recommend to read this book: http://www.scribd.com/doc/6479760/The-C ... rd-Griffin
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: Jan 1 2012 back seat passengers must be buckled up  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:12 pm |
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It sounds like a conspiracy ... like the Iluminati
And i believe this is not the issue when you only have a group that controls 1/4 of the wealth. There are checks and balances with the other 3/4s
The 'conspiracy' i speak of is much larger and yet deeper .. it goes back to the dawn of human civilization and it is what controls destiny
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SirPauly
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Post subject: Re: Jan 1 2012 back seat passengers must be buckled up  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:42 pm |
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Read the book and reflect and digest the data.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: Jan 1 2012 back seat passengers must be buckled up  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:00 pm |
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What about the Cliffs? i don't want to buy a book and i don't have time to read it right now 
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SirPauly
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Post subject: Re: Jan 1 2012 back seat passengers must be buckled up  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:21 pm |
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I think every citizen of the United States should read this book, if not the world.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: Jan 1 2012 back seat passengers must be buckled up  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:51 pm |
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So i finished reading it - it is very short and quite repetitive and there is no D/L needed So what? No surprises for me - i knew this in high school (we had very good teachers in the late 60s)  And this concept did not originate back in the middle ages .. i already anticipated you and said to go back much further to the Dawn of Civilization and City building It's a mechanism build into the rules of this game; and now it is the End Game 
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SirPauly
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Post subject: Re: Jan 1 2012 back seat passengers must be buckled up  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:47 pm |
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That's not the book. The book is over 600 pages. I didn't realize the school systems did teach that the Money Trust mislead the house of representatives, the president at that time( Woodrow Wilson) and the citizens of its country in the early years of the 20th century. Do you believe they're doing what is best for the citizens of the Country or what is in the best interest for their cartel? Don't listen to me listen to Woodrow Wilson: Quote: We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: Jan 1 2012 back seat passengers must be buckled up  Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:20 pm |
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SirPauly wrote: That's not the book. The book is over 600 pages. I didn't realize the school systems did teach that the Money Trust mislead the house of representatives, the president at that time( Woodrow Wilson) and the citizens of its country in the early years of the 20th century. Do you believe they're doing what is best for the citizens of the Country or what is in the best interest for their cartel? Don't listen to me listen to Woodrow Wilson: Quote: We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." So would i come to any different conclusion than if spent a couple of hours reading the book? This system is not designed for the NPCs benefit 
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