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 Post subject: Re: Ivy Bridge 3770K Gaming results vs Core i7-920 at 4.2GHz
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:10 am 

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How bout running games at a low resolution and minimal graphic settings to remove the gpu bottleneck?



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 Post subject: Re: Ivy Bridge 3770K Gaming results vs Core i7-920 at 4.2GHz
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:55 am 
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Not worthwhile IMO,i don't want to see unrealistic resolutions included like 1024*768,1280*1024 etc.There are various other benchmarks which can do the job without resorting to lower res.


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I understand its not realistic or indicative of real world performance but when comparing CPU's I'd like to see as much emphasis put on the CPU as possible. Usually you see reviews removing the gpu as a bottleneck while running benchmarks. But really not that big of a deal.



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 Post subject: Re: Ivy Bridge 3770K Gaming results vs Core i7-920 at 4.2GHz
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:37 am 
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How bout running games at a low resolution and minimal graphic settings to remove the gpu bottleneck?

That makes no sense whatsoever. No gamer plays with a fast CPU and low resolution. My evaluation on Monday is only Part One - and this was just an "introduction" (try doing a full evaluation in 4 days; all of the other tech sites had two weeks :P ). And we clearly can see that Ivy beats Bloomfield in games that are not GPU bound.

We will explore this much further. One of the best way to differentiate CPU performance, is to balance the burden back to the CPU; to increase the graphics settings and resolutions even beyond what we have done so far. And the picture will become much clearer when we test multi-GPU graphics.
- i am going to run Phenom II X2/X4, Core-i3, FX-8150, i7-920 and Ivy as part of a major CPU evaluation testing the most powerful single-GPU and also multi-GPU.

However, next up is extreme overclocking of IB. i took last night off and got some sleep. Today i need to take pictures of all my new HW and set up my Noctua ND-DH14 so as to OC Ivy as far as she will go. Then we will get some in-depth testing going!
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- everything is quite superficial up until now - consider it an Ivy "overview"
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:45 am 
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so much we can do with this little CPU.

Its gonna be fantastic!!!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:33 pm 
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This is a very interesting read on what Ivy Bridge is signalling about Intel's future direction

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... pean-daily
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it seems that the next "Tock" in Intel's relentless progression in CPU architecture suggests a stunning combination of both efficiency and performance. Remarkably, it seems as if Ivy Bridge's successor will be targeted at desktop, laptop and even mobile markets.

Codenamed "Haswell", not a huge amount is know about the architecture but well-informed rumours suggest a 2.5xGPU boost over Ivy Bridge, combined with power-saving technology that allows for Intel laptops to run on standard usage patterns for up to ten days between charges, while at the same time being able to process push notifications (update email etc) while in standby. This suggests very exciting times ahead for Intel's thin and light Ultrabook platform - especially when you factor in the mouthwatering tablet/laptop hybrid Intel showed off at the recent IDF 2012 conference in Beijing.

At the moment there is a delicate balance of power when it comes to desktop, mobile and graphics technology: Intel dominates desktop and laptop CPU marketshare, ARM virtually owns mobile while AMD's integrated GPUs are best-in-class (and its desktop parts are competitive too). Ivy Bridge looks for all the world like a consolidation of Intel's strengths, but the signs are there that it's more of a stepping stone to a sustained assault on it major competitors. In response, AMD will be betting heavily on its new Trinity APUs, and ARM's new A15 architecture promises to offer incredible performance - whether the new Atoms and Haswell have what it takes to see Intel win out will make for a very interesting 2013.

i agree with their conclusion


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That makes no sense whatsoever. No gamer plays with a fast CPU and low resolution.


Why do you say it makes no sense, do you disagree with how other sites benchmark cpus?

Correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't lowering the resolution help remove the gpu as a bottleneck thus putting the emphasis on the CPU?

I understand your showing real world results but aren't your benchmarks more indicative of the gtx680 and not the different cpus?

Its your site so do what you want, but you were asking for suggestions so I thought to chime in with mine.



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I think that running at 1024x768 to test a CPU is a good idea actually. Include the 1080p data as well. It's good to see how the different CPUs do when they're not GPU limited.


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Nsavop wrote:
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That makes no sense whatsoever. No gamer plays with a fast CPU and low resolution.


Why do you say it makes no sense, do you disagree with how other sites benchmark cpus?

Correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't lowering the resolution help remove the gpu as a bottleneck thus putting the emphasis on the CPU?

I understand your showing real world results but aren't your benchmarks more indicative of the gtx680 and not the different cpus?

Its your site so do what you want, but you were asking for suggestions so I thought to chime in with mine.
Of course i disagree with them. Their benches are totally useless for gamers. They tell you nothing of how your game will actually perform at settings that gamers actually use

My benches are completely indicative of the CPU; only the GPU-bound benches are not as useful. i have done MANY articles on it in the past and if you like, i can link them for you.

Again, this was the INTRODUCTION to Ivy
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It will all make sense when parts 2-4 goes up


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:48 pm 
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If we have to run IB @ 1024*768 to prove its worth its a disaster then.We have many other benchmarks where we don't have to resort to such lower res to prove its worth.


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