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 Post subject: Re: The GTX 670 Arrives - is it a game changer?
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 12:58 pm 
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i am also really curious what Ocre thinks about his analysis which i basically used as an outline - with his permission, of course. And i added to it what i learned.

And i'll be dammed to eternity

i just got a HD 7770 GHz edition!!

From Sapphire?


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:13 pm 
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Yep.

i have no explanation. After a second email, i thought they would not send it. And i am not sure if i am under NDA as there is a release date but there is no follow up communication from Sapphire
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At any rate, i have to do all of the benching before Monday when i return the Gigabyte MB and head for San Jose?

i'm going to be busy
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:20 pm 
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apoppin wrote:
i am also really curious what Ocre thinks about his analysis which i basically used as an outline - with his permission, of course. And i added to it what i learned.

And i'll be dammed to eternity

i just got a HD 7770 GHz edition!!
from AMD or one of their partners? Edit: Sapphire. Good to see some AMD vendors value your reviews.



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i am confused about this one .. but i will definitely begin benching it today. i am guessing that i am under NDA on the performance - but will check to see if any other tech sites talk about it.

And this is posted at BSoN - it is a typical email that AMD-friendly tech sites get whenever a new product is launched by a competitor.
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/20 ... ility.aspx

The sad thing is that they haven't got so much to say and the 3 free games that they highlight in the email already ended at newegg
http://www.newegg.com/radeon3forfree

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/20 ... ility.aspx
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"With so many product launches happening in the last few weeks, we felt you’d find it useful to have a look at this recap of some of the benefits of our current AMD Radeon™ HD 7900 series graphics products.

Both the AMD Radeon™ HD 7970 and AMD Radeon™ HD 7950 graphics cards are available in volume from all major etailers, with plenty of overclocked and AMD Eyefinity Technology designs from our AIBs. The AMD Radeon™ HD 7970 is available for as low as $479, while the AMD Radeon™ HD 7950 is available for as low as $399. We expect to continue to have strong supply on all of our 28nm GPUs going forward. In contrast,both GTX 680 and GTX 690 have not been supplied in any significant volume and continue to be unavailable at major stores like Newegg in the US and Alternate Europe (as of noon, Wednesday May 8th).


With every AMD Radeon™ HD 7970 Series purchase, you can take advantage of our Three For Free program and get a free copy of DiRT Showdown, Deus Ex: Human Revolution (with the Explosive Mission Pack DLC expansion), and Nexuiz. Together, these three games are worth $100. Please see links below.


Additionally, Graphics Core Next continues to deliver more than just gaming, with recent announcements such as Adobe Creative Suite 6, WinZip 16.5, GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program), and vReveal now taking advantage of OpenCL acceleration. This is evidence of AMD's commitment to making the GPU relevant for more than just gaming. As these major consumer applications are starting to leverage GPU compute, NVIDIA has regressed on compute features and performance relative to their previous generation.


With 3GB of GDDR5 memory, and a 384-bit memory bus, the AMD Radeon™ HD 7900 Series continues to excel at ultra-high resolution gaming (2560x1600 and Eyefinity), and is designed to let you max out settings in the latest games. We urge you to focus on maxed settings at 2560x1600 or higher resolution in your reviews.


AMD Eyefinity Technology continues to be the most advanced multi-display technology on the market. With support for up to 6 displays, Radeons offer the flexibility for gamers to run in countless configurations, ranging from triple-panel landscape or portrait modes, all the way up to the ultimate Eyefinity-5 and Eyefinity-6 configurations. Since the technology’s launch in 2009, we have continually polished our solution and Eyefinity delivers the most comprehensive set of multi-display features.


AMD ZeroCore Power continues to be exclusive to AMD Radeon GPUs, and offers the best idle power of any graphics card on the market. Kepler based products will continue to waste electricity, produce unnecessary noise, and generate unwanted heat even when the PC is not in use. Additionally, AMD ZeroCore Power Technology’s benefits are multiplied when multiple cards are used in Crossfire.


Given these features and advantages, and that NVIDIA keeps their recent Kepler-based products at paperware-status, we feel Radeon products are uniquely positioned in the market for continued success.



Nvidia's products at "paperware" status? .. i think not. They are just selling well due to the incredible reviews they are getting. And if all they can talk about is "GPU compute" as a feature for consumers, then AMD is dead in the water for this round. Their HD 7970 needs to drop *another* $80 and the HD 7950 needs to go below $350.

Their PR is out of touch with reality - clearly.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:56 pm 
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I found their e-mail mildly retarded.


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:06 pm 
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And yet VC&G are running with it trying to give reasons not to buy Nvidia

This comment which i did not approve, just came in our comments on the GTX 670 launch article
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Handily… told ya

All rights reserved.

This comment, this web page, this entire article, together with Nvidia logo and Alienbabeltech is now property of grorious SemiAccurate.
DO NOT TRY TO COPY, OR ELSE…
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:49 pm 
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apoppin wrote:
i am confused about this one .. but i will definitely begin benching it today. i am guessing that i am under NDA on the performance - but will check to see if any other tech sites talk about it.

And this is posted at BSoN - it is a typical email that AMD-friendly tech sites get whenever a new product is launched by a competitor.
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/20 ... ility.aspx

The sad thing is that they haven't got so much to say and the 3 free games that they highlight in the email already ended at newegg
http://www.newegg.com/radeon3forfree

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/20 ... ility.aspx
Quote:
"With so many product launches happening in the last few weeks, we felt you’d find it useful to have a look at this recap of some of the benefits of our current AMD Radeon™ HD 7900 series graphics products.

Both the AMD Radeon™ HD 7970 and AMD Radeon™ HD 7950 graphics cards are available in volume from all major etailers, with plenty of overclocked and AMD Eyefinity Technology designs from our AIBs. The AMD Radeon™ HD 7970 is available for as low as $479, while the AMD Radeon™ HD 7950 is available for as low as $399. We expect to continue to have strong supply on all of our 28nm GPUs going forward. In contrast,both GTX 680 and GTX 690 have not been supplied in any significant volume and continue to be unavailable at major stores like Newegg in the US and Alternate Europe (as of noon, Wednesday May 8th).


With every AMD Radeon™ HD 7970 Series purchase, you can take advantage of our Three For Free program and get a free copy of DiRT Showdown, Deus Ex: Human Revolution (with the Explosive Mission Pack DLC expansion), and Nexuiz. Together, these three games are worth $100. Please see links below.


Additionally, Graphics Core Next continues to deliver more than just gaming, with recent announcements such as Adobe Creative Suite 6, WinZip 16.5, GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program), and vReveal now taking advantage of OpenCL acceleration. This is evidence of AMD's commitment to making the GPU relevant for more than just gaming. As these major consumer applications are starting to leverage GPU compute, NVIDIA has regressed on compute features and performance relative to their previous generation.


With 3GB of GDDR5 memory, and a 384-bit memory bus, the AMD Radeon™ HD 7900 Series continues to excel at ultra-high resolution gaming (2560x1600 and Eyefinity), and is designed to let you max out settings in the latest games. We urge you to focus on maxed settings at 2560x1600 or higher resolution in your reviews.


AMD Eyefinity Technology continues to be the most advanced multi-display technology on the market. With support for up to 6 displays, Radeons offer the flexibility for gamers to run in countless configurations, ranging from triple-panel landscape or portrait modes, all the way up to the ultimate Eyefinity-5 and Eyefinity-6 configurations. Since the technology’s launch in 2009, we have continually polished our solution and Eyefinity delivers the most comprehensive set of multi-display features.


AMD ZeroCore Power continues to be exclusive to AMD Radeon GPUs, and offers the best idle power of any graphics card on the market. Kepler based products will continue to waste electricity, produce unnecessary noise, and generate unwanted heat even when the PC is not in use. Additionally, AMD ZeroCore Power Technology’s benefits are multiplied when multiple cards are used in Crossfire.


Given these features and advantages, and that NVIDIA keeps their recent Kepler-based products at paperware-status, we feel Radeon products are uniquely positioned in the market for continued success.



Nvidia's products at "paperware" status? .. i think not. They are just selling well due to the incredible reviews they are getting. And if all they can talk about is "GPU compute" as a feature for consumers, then AMD is dead in the water for this round. Their HD 7970 needs to drop *another* $80 and the HD 7950 needs to go below $350.

Their PR is out of touch with reality - clearly.
:hello:

3 games worth $100??? Worth total horse... :grin: Deus Ex is worth $10, Nexuiz worth $9 on the official pre-order site, and Dirt not going to be worth any more than Dirt3 which was selling for less than $20 due to a massive influx of free "coupon" bundles....



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http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/graf ... _der_turbo

So, it basically runs at the same speed as GTX 680 with the boost clocks, even though the specs are much lower.................. well, overall for all games out there would be less than 5% difference in clocks compared to GTX 680 for sure. Got any additional data on the games you tested, Apoppin (the actual clocks)? Just wondering.., and it would be helpful. I know it's a lot of trouble, but with a monitoring chart running in the background, it'd be easy to check the numbers.



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BoFox wrote:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2012/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-670/8/#abschnitt_wie_hoch_taktet_der_turbo

So, it basically runs at the same speed as GTX 680 with the boost clocks, even though the specs are much lower.................. well, overall for all games out there would be less than 5% difference in clocks compared to GTX 680 for sure. Got any additional data on the games you tested, Apoppin (the actual clocks)? Just wondering.., and it would be helpful. I know it's a lot of trouble, but with a monitoring chart running in the background, it'd be easy to check the numbers.

Huh?
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forgive me if i seem lost .. i am SO tired, that everything is funny
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Never mind, then man! Take care of yourself - you need some self love from the unknown realms (the unknowable, the infinite, the regenerating expanses, extreme relaxation, replenishment from the "dark side", the letting go)!!!!!!!!



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