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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:00 pm |
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When you consider that the card is aimed at up to 1920x1200, it is a very balanced card. Nvidia did not intend that it be used for 2560x1600 or at Surround resolutions together with maximum AA. i used a higher resolution to expose the "weakness" of the card ... and it is not very weak at all The argument of "future proofing" is utterly ridiculous when you are talking 3 years out. New and very demanding game engines will be the norm then. i expect a GTX 680 will have issues with games in 3 years, to say nothing of the HD 7950 
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grstanford
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:30 pm |
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:19 am Posts: 5174
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grstanford
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:36 pm |
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:19 am Posts: 5174
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Quote: Quite frankly, I'm surprised that Techreport did not show any hitching or stuttering problems with the strange memory-ROP ratio configuration like they did on the GTX 550 Ti. It seems that Nvidia has completely fixed the scheduling issues with the back-end of the architecture when it comes to using an odd ratio like this 24 ROP to 2GB size. How do you know that the GTX 550 Ti still has issues due to its bus? It's an extremely popular card. I'd be very careful about a feature that doesn't seem to perform perfectly based only on launch/review drivers. Many new features in drivers are a little rough around the edges at first. Anyway, to quote Damage at the Tech-Report http://techreport.com/articles.x/23419 : Quote: To make such a configuration possible, four of the GK104's memory controllers have been configured to run in 16-bit mode, while the other four remain in their native 32-bit mode.
_________________ This is such total Horse-S**t! "At NVIDIA we know that all shredders are green." --Jensen Huang Adam knew he should have bought a PC, but Eve fell for the marketing hype.
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BallaTheFeared
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:38 pm |
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:00 pm Posts: 2072 Location: Nv Headquarters
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grstanford wrote: Yes, it's interesting how focussed some forums seem to be on future proofing and long term value for money just at the moment, when historically those forums have held the position that a video card is only a 6 month to 1 year "investment" at best. I wonder what could have happened to cause the change in mindset?!  We know exactly what happened. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2224543 5xxx series got stomped like we all knew it would back in 2010. Shoot it down here because it's Nvidia, endorse it later as an AMD benefit based on something ridiculous like vram or bitcoins. You'll notice that thread is locked with the stereotypical AMD fanboys in there creating a mess of a thread created for discussion. This is why Anand is the worst place for tech on the net.
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grstanford
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:47 pm |
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BallaTheFeared wrote: grstanford wrote: Yes, it's interesting how focussed some forums seem to be on future proofing and long term value for money just at the moment, when historically those forums have held the position that a video card is only a 6 month to 1 year "investment" at best. I wonder what could have happened to cause the change in mindset?!  We know exactly what happened. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2224543 5xxx series got stomped like we all knew it would back in 2010. Shoot it down here because it's Nvidia, endorse it later as an AMD benefit based on something ridiculous like vram or bitcoins. You'll notice that thread is locked with the stereotypical AMD fanboys in there creating a mess of a thread created for discussion. This is why Anand is the worst place for tech on the net. Brilliant first post in that linked thread. It should be perma-stickied to the top of the forum with every GTX480 / nvidia troll thread listed underneath. Anyone trolling nvidia other there should then have their account restricted so that is the only thread on the forum they can see/access for the next year.
_________________ This is such total Horse-S**t! "At NVIDIA we know that all shredders are green." --Jensen Huang Adam knew he should have bought a PC, but Eve fell for the marketing hype.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:49 pm |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 20324 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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grstanford wrote: Yes, it's interesting how focussed some forums seem to be on future proofing and long term value for money just at the moment, when historically those forums have held the position that a video card is only a 6 month to 1 year "investment" at best. I wonder what could have happened to cause the change in mindset?!  If you are really concerned with "future proofing", Nvidia has the better record. i used the same drivers for the GTX 660 Ti as i did for the GTX 280. If i tested the HD 4870, i would be using AMD's "legacy" drivers. BtW, that evaluation is coming up pretty soon. It's pretty easy to debunk VC&G's most strongly held nonsense beliefs as fed to them by AMD PR. 
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BallaTheFeared
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:54 pm |
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:00 pm Posts: 2072 Location: Nv Headquarters
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apoppin wrote: grstanford wrote: Yes, it's interesting how focussed some forums seem to be on future proofing and long term value for money just at the moment, when historically those forums have held the position that a video card is only a 6 month to 1 year "investment" at best. I wonder what could have happened to cause the change in mindset?!  If you are really concerned with "future proofing", Nvidia has the better record. i used the same drivers for the GTX 660 Ti as i did for the GTX 280. If i tested the HD 4870, i would be using AMD's "legacy" drivers. BtW, that evaluation is coming up pretty soon. It's pretty easy to debunk VC&G's most strongly held nonsense beliefs as fed to them by AMD PR.  A point I attempted to make over there which eventually led to me just saying "fawk it". Someone said they got a 6990 for cheap, we'll let's start by saying the performance to 470 SLI would be comparable, secondly AMD no longer uses the uarch in the 6xxx series so that will go legacy soon enough, meanwhile they can't even properly support CF in current gen cards, let a lone legacy drivers which are on an extended release schedule. Which turned into Nvidia kills cards with a driver, of which I never saw anyone claim their card died, I had my pump stop working and the water got so hot coming out of the block it started to boil but it never hurt the card because the card like modern cpu's, shut down once it reached critical temperature. The whole AMD model for trolling is to be as ignorant and stupid as possible while making claims of god and asking others to disprove something they can't even prove.
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grstanford
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:56 pm |
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:19 am Posts: 5174
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Quote: If you are really concerned with "future proofing", Nvidia has the better record. Exactly. FXAA, Adaptive V-Sync etc all the way back to g80 anyone? How far back is MLAA supported with AMD? How far back before you are forced to use legacy drivers?
_________________ This is such total Horse-S**t! "At NVIDIA we know that all shredders are green." --Jensen Huang Adam knew he should have bought a PC, but Eve fell for the marketing hype.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:05 pm |
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BallaTheFeared wrote: The whole AMD model for trolling is to be as ignorant and stupid as possible while making claims of god and asking others to disprove something they can't even prove.
Well, they clearly work for AMD PR. And how successful are they at selling their own products and gaining marketshare? You have to realize that they have become desperate. And when someone is desperate they cannot plan very well nor execute well. So what is left? VC&G as the prime advertisiing tools to sell AMD HW? 
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BallaTheFeared
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Post subject: Re: The EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked edition arrives  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:46 pm |
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:00 pm Posts: 2072 Location: Nv Headquarters
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VC&G is pretty much a dead website on the gpu and cpu sections, there is very little new traffic there, only the same few people arguing like idiots in every thread.
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