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 Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - AMD PR Responds 4/19
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:07 am 
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Well, i am certain that the VC&G thread had nothing to do with it. If i hadn't contacted Jon Peddie yesterday, i would not have heard from Mr. Hook
- the two events are directly related

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You're assuming Chris Hook didn't know about the ATF thread before hand. Could have known about it all. Or just didn't know the details.



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Well, the call was prompted by Jon. i just learned AMD is a client of his; i had no idea previously
.. and i took my chances with an email. i have interviewed him before. He is one of the most respected and influential people in the tech industry
:good:

AMD is a very big company. ABT had issues with Nvidia before. And that time, it also took getting our information to the "right" person so that changes could be considered or made. ABT is not a large tech site, and i am grateful for the assistance that we have received.

And it also appears that we really hit a nerve - more like a root canal with no painkiller - with the stealth filth over at VC&G
.. they have unmasked themselves even as they demand "proof" - just as we saw this all before with another infamous forum stealth shill. It looks they are going to be cut off from their gravy train (and maybe even from their jobs) and they don't like their exposure one bit

.. They want an apology, i got one for them . . .

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:56 am 
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For starters, ABT totally approached this wrong

There is no "right way". ABT was blocked internally at AMD from presenting our evidence. And we were slandered in the process.

If we have issues with any other tech company, we bring it directly to them. That is the right way - to discuss issues in PRIVATE

When communication is cut off, then the other choice is to go public; ABT is a media company. i am not going to apologize. We were treated very rudely.

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EDIT: I'd also like to point out, ATF was the only forum that actually discussed the new buried Blog. The author and it's site did nothing to actually encourage people to read it. It was the actions here (though possibly aggrevating and it shows in Apoppin's responses) that caused him to send out the blog to more people than he originally had done so.

If i had known that Jon would be able to help, i would have asked him for assistance earlier. Hindsight is always 20/20
- i sent out my blog - not to the news agencies so as to embarrass AMD at this late date - but to Industry Insiders that might be able to help. The VC&G thread really did nothing but expose it to them - the place originally with the stealth issues.


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OK, Nigel
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He called me a jackass after that....that's why I am upset.


Ohh .. poor little sensitive baby.
(ROFLMAO)

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Like I said I am all for transparency but the behavior of certain Anandrech members who are also members of ABT was downright reprehensible. Anandtech forum members running over there to attack people here is pathetic.It's a way of getting around the rules of this forum and posting things about people they dare not post here.

i take back any apology to you - you are absolutely not worth consideration; you are a troublemaker. You can dish it out but you can't take it

Who really cares what you think? Jackass.
:taunt:

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I think the editor of ABT is a jackass and always will be.It's insult for insult and I care not if I am banned or warned.He and his minions are stark raving mad,rabid,idiots and they can all take a flying leap into rush hour traffic for all I care.

As long as my name is called on that slimy site I will retaliate..

(stpd)



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:58 am 
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So who are the people that have been "outed"?


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So who are the people that have been "outed"?

It's up to AMD to investigate and clean house. We needed to bring the issues to their attention. And our problem was getting their attention since someone inside AMD blocked our access to them.

It is not up to us what they actually do; it is their company. But it appears that they are investigating.


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[QUOTE=NIGELG;33323134]Like I said I am all for transparency[/QUOTE]

No you are not


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No one understands this thing. All i wanted to do was present my case to AMD.
-all of this - this was just the presentation .. imagine if i really wanted to stick it to them. We don't. We want them to fix it.

Someone in PR decided to blacklist a media company - without justification or explanation.
- the rudeness by cutting us off is what got me irritated - the same arrogance that their shills exhibit

"Officially" AMD knows nothing about their employees posting on tech forums. What that means and what they want the public to believe - is that, out of 8,000 employees (currently, many more ex-Sales representing AMD at Edelman) - only ONE has ever posted on a tech forum (by their sig). We know better even though some appear to believe that we are stupid or blind.

We don't have to name any names. We know that AMD employees post because their company encourages it and ATF's administrator admitted it. However, we don't see one AMD employee currently declare work affiliation (as Intel employees are proud to do, for example). And we know that both Kingston and Nvidia forbid it on threat of termination of employment.

Let's' call it like it is: The OP of that VC&G thread is a liar who half-quotes us and slanders ABT to defend his admittedly favorite company
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Well then, if I agree with you as much as I may realize then the following is true on your end too:
ABT thru false accusations to support his black listing which in the end were proven wrong.
ABT accused ATF Mods of knowingly protecting AMD shills which again hasn't been proven true - it's still open ended.
ABT focused on ATF + AMD because he felt shills were the cause of his black listing, again wrong, and went through great lengths to accuse people (by name) of which at ABT you agreed to, again without any evidence.

Everyone can see right through you to your motive.


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I've asked for proof of the shills, I've gotten linked IDC's post which openly states there are other companies' employees posting here too (yet that is ignored.) I'm told about Edelman and their Wal-mart fiasco, yet nVidia and their AEG fiasco removes them from "history will repeat itself."

IDC's posts affirm that there are "AMD employees hiding in our midst". You conveniently substitute "other companies" and try to bring Nvidia into it.
You also ignore that it is completely against AMD's OWN policy that requires transparency from ALL posting employees


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Read it in his thread that I posted here, his reasoning for not posting it on the front page (clearly viewable) against his own poster's request. You'll see him and keys discuss how Keys is hopping ABT doesn't take it easy just to reconcile with AMD which Apoppin admits is his goal (oh yeah, and to expose shills - work in progress.)

My goal has always been to reconcile with AMD - not to embarrass them; we want them to address the fact that their employees post without disclosure. And my blog is on the front page.

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My motives are clear - prove your claims:
ATF harbored Shills got you black listed - busted

ATF does harbor shills. Edelman PR speaking for AMD *admitted it* - "we see their posts, we don't care"
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ATF Mods knowingly protect AMD shills, it's their MO, - busted
Idontcare admitted that AMD employees are hidden there and evidence has been presented; every GTX 680 thread was locked by the shills' uproar - until we pointed it out
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AMD shills post at AMD - no proof, not a single piece of solid evidence.

We know for a fact that hidden AMD employees post at ATF. Your flawed conclusion and screwed up definition of "shill" conveniently allows you to ignore the facts and evidence presented. You would have us believe that - despite AMD's efforts to encourage their employees to post, not a single one does.
Now i will watch you as you slander us some more and half quote me in a weak effort to cover for your own broken moral compass


i will agree with one thing you said
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My motives are clear

completely clear and very transparent


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I pm'd him on ANANDTECH but got no response....

i haven't read a single PM there this year and i won't begin now. This is my home site and together with our members we are building:

ALIENBABELTECH
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Everyone is welcome to post here
(wlcm)

---except shills
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