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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - AMD PR Responds 4/19  Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:16 pm |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19765 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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Here retorts the defender of all things, "stealth" Quote: So, according to this we have to make the conclusion all employees == shills, the same shills that got ABT blacklisted.
Logical fail? Definitely. Agreeable: AMD employees post here. Questionable: Are some shills? Evidence: Nothing but opinion and conjecture. AMD employees post there. Fact. Who cares if they are "shilling" (by your definition) or not? AMD forbids their employees to post without disclosure - period. They just don't enforce their policyQuote: Because AMD Harbored Shills at ATF got you black listed? Remember, that was the premise of your article. Yet, in the end, even that was proven wrong. That is not the premise of my blog. AMD employees posting at ATF without disclosure is. Never forget that.Quote: Which Shills? There was a lot of back and forth in all the threads. Are you yet agai singling out a handful of posters here? Of course you are, now provide the evidence it was THEM that got the threads locked. i am singling out all AMD employees posting at your forum; the same ones that AMD's Edelman rep was talking aboutQuote: Moral Compass? I'm not accusing people of anything without proof. I'm not the one crying foul and throwing a whole forum under the bus because I did something that indirectly got me black listed. Even after it was revealed to you that ATF played no role in your black listing you won't even offer an apology or look back at your accusations. And you question my moral compass? Irony guy, irony - it just keeps repeating itself in my head. Then something is really wrong with your head because you keep insisting on the lie
Clearly the blacklisting of ABT site was not related to anything elseQuote: He is getting a lot of hits for his site by the personal attacks,I guess. 
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apoppin
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#532)
Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - AMD PR Responds 4/19  Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:22 pm |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19765 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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http://www.nvidia.com/object/social-med ... lines.htmlSomething new .. it is dated 2012 .. i wonder if this is a reaction to reviewing other companies' SM policies -- it was strictly forbidden before. There was a need for a Focus Group .. but not necessarily any longer. Nvidia employees are evidently now allowed to post - as Intel's policy - with full disclosure The forums are about to get very interesting as Nvidia employees start to sign up and post at tech forums. -- all we ask for from any company is disclosure and transparency. I hope ABT had a hand in this. Screw recognition 
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apoppin
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#533)
Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - AMD PR Responds 4/19  Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:23 pm |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19765 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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Quote: This is the official policy for all NVIDIA employees or representatives who use social media to discuss topics related to NVIDIA, its technology, its partners or the markets in which we operate. Social media includes blogs, wikis, social networks, forums, virtual worlds, and any other kind of online community or publishing platform – both on and off nvidia.com. This policy will be updated periodically, so check back occasionally to make sure you're up to date. Principles for Online Engagement
If you participate in social media, follow these guiding principles:
Understand and follow the NVIDIA Code of Conduct and the NVIDIA Privacy Policy Stick to your area of expertise When mentioning NVIDIA, disclose that you are an employee and that your opinions do not necessarily reflect those of the company (unless authorized) Post meaningful, respectful comments—do not post spam, offensive or derogatory remarks Always pause and think before posting It’s critically important to respect proprietary information, content, and confidentiality. Do not post about unannounced products or technologies. Avoid mudslinging or otherwise disrespecting our competitors. When disagreeing with others' opinions, keep it appropriate and polite
10 Rules to Keep in Mind
Maintain Transparency - If you are blogging, tweeting or otherwise publishing on social media about your work at NVIDIA, disclose your real name, identify that you work for NVIDIA and be clear about your role. If you have a vested interest in something you are discussing, be the first to point it out to maintain credibility. You still need to keep confidentiality around proprietary information and content.
Carefully Communicate - Make sure your efforts to be transparent do not violate NVIDIA's privacy, confidentiality, and legal guidelines for external commercial speech. All statements must be true and not misleading and all claims must be substantiated and approved. Never comment on anything related to legal matters or litigation without the approval of Corporate Communications and the Legal Department. Do not post about forward looking information.
Stick To What You Know - If you contribute content to social media, only write and post about your areas of expertise, especially as related to NVIDIA and our technology. If you publish to a website outside NVIDIA, use an appropriate disclaimer stating that your views do not represent NVIDIA. If you have any questions, contact the NVIDIA Legal Department.
You Are Part of A Broader Organization - Just by identifying yourself as an NVIDIA employee, you are creating perceptions about your expertise and NVIDIA. Remember, what you say or write is a reflection on NVIDIA.
Use a Conversational Tone - Talk to your readers like you talk to real people. Show your personality. Produce content that you’d enjoy reading. The best content is open-ended and makes readers want to respond.
Accountability - What you write is ultimately your responsibility. Participation in social media as it relates to NVIDIA is not a right but an opportunity, requiring you to be mindful and thoughtful when publishing online. Understand and follow the NVIDIA Code of Conduct, the NVIDIA Privacy Policy, and any terms and conditions for third-party sites on which you engage. NVIDIA holds accountable any employees who violate this policy.
The Manager Rule - If you're about to publish something that feels uncomfortable, reflect on whether to post it. Ask yourself, “If my manager saw this, would I be embarrassed or worried?” If you're still unsure, discuss it with them or the Legal Department.
The Internet is Global - Exercise good judgment when responding to questions that have global significance. NVIDIA is a global company, with customers around the world. The way that you answer an online question might be accurate in some parts of the world, but inaccurate (or even illegal) in others.
The Internet is Forever - When you publish information online, it is cached and becomes part of a permanent record. Efforts to “remove/delete” it or attempt to make it anonymous may work in one area but not all.
Your Job Comes First - NVIDIA understands that you can engage in productive social media activities at work, and these activities may be helpful for NVIDIA. However, exercise sound judgment and common sense to prevent social media from becoming a distraction.
It is important to understand and apply these rules and principles when using social media. Failure to follow this policy may result in disciplinary action up to and including termination of employment.¹
A Handy (Non-Comprehensive) List of Do’s and Don’ts
Do: Provide responses in technical forum threads about NVIDIA, when you’re a subject-matter expert, and disclose your relationship to NVIDIA. Don’t: Anonymously communicate within a forum about NVIDIA products. Do: Tweet about your part in helping launch new NVIDIA technologies. Don’t: Tweet about unannounced products, or otherwise proprietary information. Do: Clarify misinformation about NVIDIA within a comment thread. Don’t: Attack or spam NVIDIA competitors online. Do: Write in a colorful, interesting way that you’d look forward to reading. Don’t: Use language that others might find disparaging or profane.
¹ This policy in no way limits NVIDIA employees and representatives from speaking about working conditions or other work related matters as permitted by law.
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apoppin
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#534)
Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:57 pm |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19765 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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The OP seems to have adjusted his PoV Quote: I wouldn't go to such extremes. I'd hate to think people are that petty to grand stand on a forum, none the less, to make someone else's forum time worse.
It seems to boil down to now we're all open to speculation of shill-ism. I was told I was being navie if I didn't think AMD employees posted here and pushed their products. Hell, I didn't need a policy to tell me I already thought people were doing that. Now it seems almost all the policies are mirror images and, well, next time you say something favorable about your favorite company - remember, the shill-card is lurking.
Guess the good old days of just being dumb fanboys are over. You may be right. And this has been a public service to alert the tech community that things are not the same as they have been. i emailed Nvidia for clarification to see when they changed their policy.
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BoFox
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#535)
Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:04 pm |
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 3:46 pm Posts: 3864 Location: Earth
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Cheers to you, Apoppin, and to this awesome site, Alienbabeltech! Keep it up, man - I like how there's progress!
When (hopefully) the relation with Edelman is modified to ensure that the whole PR "business" is homogenous with AMD's own internal policy of participating in social media, a lot of credit will go to you, Apoppin for making the world a better place for all of us forum readers.
_________________ What is this thing right now? Put your arms up on one side of the horizon, put them up into the sky and twist them across, meeting unto the other side of the horizon. That is a sign symbol of life. Face the goodness in life.
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Ocre
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#536)
Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:43 am |
Joined: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:22 am Posts: 2142
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Appopin, too many people dont realize how your efforts are for the common good. How much better the forums could be if these companies followed their policies. Completely identified, imagine how cool it would be to hang with the employees of your favorite companies. The leaders of technologies. Just hanging, discussing what ever. a real community without the slime. Its a better world i can imagine.
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apoppin
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#537)
Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:56 am |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19765 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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You guys are really kind. Thank-you. What you are describing is what i have envisioned for ABT when we left the other forum over 3-1/2 years ago.  Starting right here ... and now !
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apoppin
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#538)
Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:23 am |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19765 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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Do you think that i will hear back from AMD? 
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#539)
Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:34 am |
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:32 am Posts: 1814 Location: India
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Yeah definitely.U said u will have something in this weekend right?
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apoppin
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#540)
Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:07 pm |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19765 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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i don't know what to expect. When he told me that AMD had nothing to do with stealth marketing, i mentioned David Makin by name and told him that there was already an attempt to recruit ABT as an AMD flog when we were a relatively new site.
i don't think he liked that revelation. i don't know how they will react to this kind of frank honesty.
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