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Keysplayr
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:08 am |
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:58 am Posts: 528 Location: New York
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I have no doubts evolucion8 is posting at AT through proxy. Pick any one of the newly registered AMD antagonists. Evolucion8 was very desperate to post and be heard, almost like a crack addiction. Phony account after phony account. Just so he could get one post in at a time. And yes, he was pretty nasty to people.
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Ocre
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:05 pm |
Joined: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:22 am Posts: 2147
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Nsavop wrote: apoppin wrote: He turned out to be very nasty here to everyone. He isn't welcome.
i would not mind AMD fans - i would like them to post here. And i would not mind AMD employees - even their PR - if they only identified themselves Just saw AMD has a hardware rep on overclock.net, nice to see there starting to identify themselves. http://www.overclock.net/t/1297192/guild-wars-2-crossfire-7970#post_17992147very cool
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BoFox
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:51 pm |
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 3:46 pm Posts: 3864 Location: Earth
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Heh, there's apt to be at least ONE AMD rep out of dozens or even hundreds on the forums who had a change of heart, letting the higher humanitarian qualities lead the way rather than the covert AMD-Edelman shilling policies. It was probably Mark Poppin here who led that AMD rep to a change of heart, to identifying himself for the sake of forum integrity.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:05 pm |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19788 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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BoFox wrote: Heh, there's apt to be at least ONE AMD rep out of dozens or even hundreds on the forums who had a change of heart, letting the higher humanitarian qualities lead the way rather than the covert AMD-Edelman shilling policies. It was probably Mark Poppin here who led that AMD rep to a change of heart, to identifying himself for the sake of forum integrity. AMD is going to have to identify some of their employees or they lose credibility. And now (and i have been begging them for this contact), Nvidia employees are starting to post on Tech forums. i also invited whoever they allow to post to do so at ABT. http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p ... stcount=14According to my contact, technically Nvidia employee are allowed to post, but it is not encouraged. --so they are going to allow posts by certain designated employees like Manuel G (who posts on the Nvidia forums) to post on independent tech forums. Progress i guess. Evidently Nvidia is very tentative about returning to the forums. i'd like to encourage them (as well as AMD, Intel and other identified employees of tech companies). We'd get some great discussion and they'd get raw but genuine feedback. 
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SolMiester
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:23 pm |
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:14 pm Posts: 51
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I think, if AMD are going to concentrate on APU, then they need better than a 76xx glued to their CPU...Lets face it, they aren't going to compete with Intel, HTPC is the perfect fit for an APU, but most are connected to HDTVs!....13x7 gaming is not going to cut it @ 1080.....They need to bolt a 77xx or perhaps a 78xx onto it..I would love a low watt HDTV build, to streaming my film collection or even play casual games on, while the wife commandeers the office PC...
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BoFox
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:48 pm |
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 3:46 pm Posts: 3864 Location: Earth
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SolMiester wrote: I think, if AMD are going to concentrate on APU, then they need better than a 76xx glued to their CPU...Lets face it, they aren't going to compete with Intel, HTPC is the perfect fit for an APU, but most are connected to HDTVs!....13x7 gaming is not going to cut it @ 1080.....They need to bolt a 77xx or perhaps a 78xx onto it..I would love a low watt HDTV build, to streaming my film collection or even play casual games on, while the wife commandeers the office PC... Roger that, Amen!
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Ocre
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:02 pm |
Joined: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:22 am Posts: 2147
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this is the catch 22. AMD will cut their own throats if they make the igp too powerful!
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:23 am |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19788 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/09/ ... relevance/Quote: The [Trinity] chips aren't bad—the integrated graphics processor on some of the chips are capable of beating Intel's HD 4000 GPU in gaming performance, though the CPUs aren't quite capable of beating last year's Sandy Bridge processors at similar clock speeds. For AMD, the issue is that they're still talking mostly about desktop and laptop chips. . . .
There's one thing in the Haswell presentation that is conspicuously absent from AMD's latest Steamroller architecture update: tablets. With Haswell, Intel is pushing the power consumption of its flagship x86 CPUs lower than ever before with a 10W processor aimed at Ultrabooks and tablets. Going even lower on the power consumption scale, its upcoming Clover Trail Atoms (and, going beyond that, next year's Bay Trail chips) are going to end up in lower-cost tablets and even smartphones. . . .
AMD has produced a lower-power processor based on the the Bobcat architecture found in AMD-based netbooks and budget laptops . . . but Atom tablets have so far been much more numerous and it still leaves the company without a higher-performing Haswell competitor or a more power-efficient version for use in smartphones. AMD is being shut out of future markets Quote: What's even more worrisome is that their relevance to anything but low-cost PCs is also melting away bit by bit. This has been happening slowly but steadily since 2006: First, Intel's Core 2 processors beat AMD's then-current Athlon X2 processors in clock-for-clock performance, but an aggressive price war kept AMD competitive in the mainstream market.
As quad-core processors became more common, it later became the case that a cheaper quad-core processor from AMD could beat a dual-core processor from Intel in heavily-threaded workloads, but AMD's dual-core processors were confined to the low end of the market, and the introduction of Turbo Boost, Hyperthreading, and ever-better performance-per-watt eventually helped Intel overcome this in the Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge epoch.
Finally, AMD had its integrated graphics performance to fall back on. Its argument in recent years has been that its chips offer more "balanced" performance than Intel's—a "good enough" CPU paired with an integrated graphics part that could replace low-end previous-generation dedicated graphics chips. This argument is still largely true in AMD's current Trinity products, but even this argument is slowly losing its potency as Intel's integrated graphics solutions catch up by leaps and bounds; even two years ago, Intel's graphics were basically unusable for gaming, but current chips provide a reasonable level of performance for older games or newer titles with settings turned down.
The trouble with AMD is that it doesn't have big plans to chase new growth markets like tablets and smartphones, and it's running out of niches to occupy in its traditional desktop and laptop PC markets. The PC market needs AMD (or a company like it) to keep Intel on its toes and to keep prices down, but the company's fumbles and inability to execute have made it hard to have a lot of faith in it. In both the PC and server markets, AMD offers a decent alternative to Intel for the price-conscious, but it looks increasingly unlikely that they'll ever again be anything else. Pretty bleak summary concluding that AMD is facing irrelevance 
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SirPauly
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:26 am |
Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:56 pm Posts: 803
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The worse thing for a technology company is to be deemed irrelevant! They're too re-active to me.
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SirPauly
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Post subject: Re: AMD: “we are betting the company on APUs”  Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:42 am |
Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:56 pm Posts: 803
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One of the hardest things about posting is not to get into subjective, semantic debates -- personal bait -- and whatever one says -- there is a record of it and -- wouldn't be fun to see official employees of the competitors go at it -- like passionate enthusiasts do at times, one may imagine. I would enjoy the competitive discourse but would imagine the executives wouldn't. It was like a breath of fresh air to see Timothy Lottes join in-in the TXAA discussion.
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