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Hades16x
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:47 am |
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Well I think they have superconductor technology available for high capacity and ridiculous transfers. At some point there will be and end to this madness of storage performance. Realistically, if hard drives can equal the speed of RAM, with durable storage in a "powered off" mode, do you think we will see a redesign of computers as we know it?
What is the functionality of RAM? A high speed interconnect between the CPU and other devices, used only because traditional large format storage drives are too slow?
Those are the questions.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:26 am |
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Eventually we will have to see a redesign of computers and the end of x86 primitive code - storage can be at the molecular level Are we in Hot Deals & Bargains? 
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LeonHyman
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:37 am |
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apoppin wrote: What is after SSD?  Easy...... TTE 
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Razer
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:32 am |
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:51 pm Posts: 37
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Hades16x wrote: and it has no problems doing this:  Don't know how its getting that speed.. must be using outer area of platters near to circumference. In various reviews i've read they say GP drives are slow but fine for storage purposes. Here Seagate 7200.12 is fast and reasonably quiet and cool.I opted for faster one  . btw Samsung F3 seems to be damn fast 1TB drive(cheap too).Samsung discontinued selling HDDs here so i had no option getting those.
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MrK
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:15 am |
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:08 pm Posts: 1674
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Hades16x wrote: It being green has nothing to do with it. My WHS is FULL of GP drives, along with other drives. and it has no problems doing this:  There has been countless arguments on these GP drives. When WD put them out, they said variable RPM 5900-7200, which they did not... They were fixed RPM drives at an unspecified speed. To be quite honest, for a storage drive.... speed doesn't really matter, especially when they can dish out ~100MB/s transfers. The main problem with the GP drive argument is WD hasn't specified too much on them. The instantaneous power on of a hard drive is anywhere from 3-20x of an idle/active drive.(IIRC) That's why we see raid cards with staggered spinups. Either way, when you're pushing 20+ drives in a system, PCI slots become you're most valuable asset. Sure you can get raid cars that support 16+ drives per card, but they tend to be quite expensive. Im quite fond of the Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 cards. At around 100USD for 8 SATA ports, they provide enough connections without breaking the bank. That's why I'm very much into the GB/Sata port thing. The WD 2TB drive I linked is probably slower than the Seagate, but it surely provides a better $/GB ratio and GB/sata port ratio. ok now that speed is not true. that speed is at the start of the transfer where data is cached and gives you the burst speed. For average speed, look at the speed 50% into the transfer. Also the green drives are slower than non-green drives and it has been documented. No HDD can give you 100MB/s sustained read and write speeds, let alone green ones. The transfer speeds also depend on the size of files. Small files transfer slower than large contiguous files. Run one of the benchmarks in my review here http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=12320, on that drive and post the image here.
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Hades16x
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:50 am |
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:18 am Posts: 54
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 Edit: So you're right, it doesn't sustain 100MB/s transfers. But the burst and actual is within a delta of 20MB/s from 100MB/s. For $10 less than the seagate posted per gb, Id take the GP drives!
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Hades16x
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:56 am |
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:18 am Posts: 54
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LeonHyman wrote: apoppin wrote: What is after SSD?  Easy...... TTE  Actually if we were counting like that, shouldn't it be: SSD SSE SSF SSG ..... SSZ-SS0 Then: STA STB STC STD- rofl Yo you check out that new 1TB STD I got?
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Razer
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:43 am |
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:51 pm Posts: 37
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Hades16x wrote: LeonHyman wrote: apoppin wrote: What is after SSD?  Easy...... TTE  Actually if we were counting like that, shouldn't it be: SSD SSE SSF SSG ..... SSZ-SS0 Then: STA STB STC STD- rofl Yo you check out that new 1PB STD I got? Corrected
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:44 am |
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:26 am Posts: 19701 Location: 404 - Not Found!
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Hades16x wrote: LeonHyman wrote: apoppin wrote: What is after SSD?  Easy...... TTE  Actually if we were counting like that, shouldn't it be: SSD SSE SSF SSG ..... SSZ-SS0 Then: STA STB STC STD- rofl Yo you check out that new 1TB STD I got? Check it out; my 100 TB STD has a virus that cannot be cured, just quarantined That 2 TB green drive is good bang for buck as a storage drive.  if you are going to spend $140
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Razer
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Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM HD - $79 shipped 'egg  Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:46 am |
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:51 pm Posts: 37
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apoppin wrote: That 2 TB green drive is good bang for buck as a storage drive.  if you are going to spend $140 Seagate 2TB LP crushes it.
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