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apoppin
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Post subject: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:09 pm |
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http://www.donanimhaber.com/Nvidia_Ferm ... -17028.htmAccording to Donanimhaber.com, Luciano Alibrandi, Director of PR at Nvidia said that Fermi-based GPUs (GF100) will be faster than anything ATi has currently. No launch date of Fermi was given but it appears CES 2010 will launch new generation technologies from Nvidia. (i think the Fermi launch will not be at CES, but you never know; that IS *why* i am going)The dual GPU Fermi maybe be launched one or two months after what they are calling GTX 360/380. What do you think, GFX 395?
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gstanford
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Post subject: Re: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:24 pm |
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I'd say its probably true. They have had a dual gpu every generation since g71. It sounds like the Fermi version will arrive sooner than normal though.
There is two conclusions you could draw from that
* nvidia planned better for a dual-gpu card when designing Fermi
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* nvidia needs dual Fermi to be competitive with ATi.
I believe the former reason is the correct one coupled with the fact that Fermi is launching later than nvidia wanted, but expect to see reason two peddled frantically around the internet by the nvidia nay-sayers.
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LeonHyman
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Post subject: Re: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:31 pm |
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Well, whichever reason it is, some very interesting times are ahead. =) That's for sure. 
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:45 pm |
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gstanford wrote: I'd say its probably true. They have had a dual gpu every generation since g71. It sounds like the Fermi version will arrive sooner than normal though.
There is two conclusions you could draw from that
* nvidia planned better for a dual-gpu card when designing Fermi
or
* nvidia needs dual Fermi to be competitive with ATi.
I believe the former reason is the correct one coupled with the fact that Fermi is launching later than nvidia wanted, but expect to see reason two peddled frantically around the internet by the nvidia nay-sayers. i don't think it is an "or" issue And/or it is very difficult for me to expect that GT 100 (a single GTX) will beat 5890, a dual GPU. Certainly the new GTX will (probably) cream 5870 but will not (likely) beat AMD's dual flagship. That is what GX2 would be for.  yes, interesting times ahead
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gstanford
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Post subject: Re: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:29 pm |
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Why not? Its not as if ATi's newest totally tear away from GTX285 & 295 - they don't.
I expect GTX380 to be twice as powerful as GTX285 as a bare minimum.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:53 pm |
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gstanford wrote: Why not? Its not as if ATi's newest totally tear away from GTX285 & 295 - they don't.
I expect GTX380 to be twice as powerful as GTX285 as a bare minimum. i think you might be disappointed When was the last time they completely doubled across the board performance over last gen? Not with GTX 280. Not for a long time.
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gstanford
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Post subject: Re: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:00 pm |
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apoppin wrote: gstanford wrote: Why not? Its not as if ATi's newest totally tear away from GTX285 & 295 - they don't.
I expect GTX380 to be twice as powerful as GTX285 as a bare minimum. i think you might be disappointed When was the last time they completely doubled across the board performance over last gen? Not with GTX 280. Not for a long time. http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php? ... count=2115Razor1 wrote: Quote: Originally Posted by neliz View Post I find your G80 part deux very hard to believe. yeah its hard to believe, but effective flops on fermi is 2.5 to 3 times that of the gt200. 633 gflops vs 1.5 -1.8 tflops.
if we look at the gt 200b, its ~2.5 times more
But wasn't talking about performance anyways, die size I haven't seen anything solid at all outside of it might be around these numbers.
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gstanford
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Post subject: Re: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:14 pm |
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I'd add that since nv30 nvidia has been pretty darn consistent in doubling previous generation performance, you need to ignore dual-gpu cards here and minor refreshes such as g70.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:22 pm |
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gstanford wrote: I'd add that since nv30 nvidia has been pretty darn consistent in doubling previous generation performance, you need to ignore dual-gpu cards here and minor refreshes such as g70. GTX 280 did not double performance over the previous generation. At the most, i would expect Nvidia's single-GPU Fermi flagship to double GTX 280 performance; not GTX 285 - and of course, it would still be clearly faster than HD 5870. - i guess we will have to wait and see As to the next Fermi GX2, i expect some thermal/power draw issues to keep it from being 2x GTX 380
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gstanford
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Post subject: Re: GF 100 Fermi X2 in the works from Nvidia  Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:28 pm |
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Look at what I linked from B3D - 3x the flops over GT200 (GTX280/GTX260), 2.5x over GT200b (GTX285/275/295).
No, GT200 wasn't twice as fast as g80, does it really matter? I'm certainly not about to remove my GTX280's and replace them with my GTX8800's, I can tell you that right now. It's like the g70 (7800GTX) imo, another nvidia high-end refresh style card that didn't absolutely double performance (though g71 (7900GTX) pretty much made up for that).
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