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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:54 pm 
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UPDATE: Added HD 7970, rated at 217 VP!

(21% faster than GTX 580 for now.. will update with more accuracy after seeing more benchmarks from the likes of techreport, xbitlabs, and hopefully Alienbabeltech! Also, the performance improvements with future driver revisions remain to be seen.) Keep in mind that the dual-GPU cards are still penalized by 15% in the Voodoopower ratings due to microstuttering still being present, plus the lack (or the "slight") of multi-GPU scaling in some games like Batman:AC, Skyrim, etc... etc..

reviews so far:
http://widescreengamingforum.com/articl ... nchmarking
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/2472/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review
http://www.ixbt.com/video3/tahiti-part1.shtml
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review-part-1-3--meet-tahiti-xt-from-the-southern-islands/14307.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/49646-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-review.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5261/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/12/21/amd_radeon_hd_7970_video_card_review
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-radeon-hd-7970-graphics-card-review/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-benchmark-tahiti-gcn,3104.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1361/pg1/amd-radeon-hd-7970-graphics-card-review-introduction.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1805/1/
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-3GB-Graphics-Card-Review-Tahiti-28nm
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-28nm-Tahiti-GPU-Review/
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/33031-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb/
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-Video-Card-Review/1458
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/amd%E2%80%99s_radeon_hd_7970_43_billion_transistors_pure_performance
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/graphics-cards/1289251/amd-radeon-hd-7970
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2011/test-amd-radeon-hd-7970/ (THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE ONE SO FAR!!!!! Yet still favoring Radeon cards a bit more than most other reviews)
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,860536/Test-Radeon-HD-7970-Die-erste-Grafikkarte-mit-DirectX-111-PCI-Express-30-und-28nm/Grafikkarte/Test/
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/amd-hd7970-graphics-card-review/
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/AMD_HD_7970/
http://www.clubic.com/carte-graphique/carte-graphique-amd/radeon-hd-7970/article-466356-1-radeon-hd-7970-tahiti.html
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/carte-graphique/generic-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3-go-p12460/test.html
http://www.techstation.it/hardware/arti ... i-233.html
http://www.xtremehardware.it/recensioni ... 112226221/
http://www.3dcenter.org/news/2011-12-22
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/848-1/a ... m-gcn.html (ALSO VERY COMPREHENSIVE, DOING SYNTHETIC TESTS ON THE FILLRATE, ETC.)
Plus:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/22192
and finally:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphi ... -7970.html

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Looks like NV and AMD will soon have to stop selling discrete video cards with less than around 15 VP soon, for things to make business sense - with the onslaught of higher-performing graphics-integrated CPU's. Soon, all of the low-end and mid-range CPU's will also have integrated GPUs performing between 15 and 35 VP. (see http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic ... 174#p41174 for a quick comparison to the cards with 15-35VP )

By the way, there's still shame on AMD for pulling a Radeon HD 5450 DDR2 version.. just to save a couple bucks on the DDR2 memory, the performance becomes rotten for all games released within the last several years. Thankfully, NV has not pulled anything like a Geforce 205 again this time around, thus being the leader for the gaming world. The lowest so far from NV was the GT 520, rated at 23.9 VP which is not far behind from AMD's first Llano Fusion offering.

AMD's Llano has set the bar much higher for "standardized" graphics performance (like with integrated audio on the motherboard for example). Do we ever see sound cards with worse performance than mobo audio any longer? At least the HD 6450 (AMD's slowest offering for the 6-series) is 3 times faster than HD 5450. See the trend!

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How soon is soon?
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The older IG can still be upgraded to a HD 5450 for very cheap right now; there are millions of MBs with HD2000 graphics, for example


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Who, in their right sense, would want to upgrade a motherboard with functional HD2000 graphics for 2D graphics on the monitor want to upgrade to a HD 5450 -- what for??? It's already completely worthless (only useful for a backup "emergency" video card if you do not already have integrated video, to be used in case your video card fails). A useful $5 piece of silicon, indeed...

But you're right, it won't be that soon (I presume that's what you were implying).. at least not until the next generation when all of the older video cards rated at less than 20 Voodoopower will become commonly useful junk worth no more than $5 apiece on Ebay (as the market becomes flooded with them, just like with floppy or CD-ROM drives).

Nothing less than 20 VP in about 2 years, give or take a few months depending on how dumb Intel is...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:21 am 
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UPDATE- Added the "notables" to the VP listings:

Plus the historical notables: --(Approximated for now - just my own quick guesses):
Radeon X850XT 256MB (DX9.0b) -- 10.9 VP
Radeon X800XT 256MB (DX9.0b) -- 10.4 VP
Radeon X800XT All-In-Wonder (DX9.0b) -- 10.4 VP
Geforce 6800GT (DX9.0c) -- 8.8 VP
Geforce 6800 (DX9.0c) -- 7.3 VP
Radeon X800 (DX9.0b) -- 7.3 VP
Radeon X700XT (DX9.0b) -- 6.5 VP
Geforce 6600GT (DX10) -- 6.2 VP
Radeon 9800XT (DX9.0b) -- 5.8 VP
Geforce FX 5950 Ultra (DX9.0a) -- 5.6 VP
Radeon 9800 Pro (DX9.0b) -- 5.4 VP
Geforce FX 5900 Ultra (DX9.0a) -- 5.2 VP
Radeon 9700 Pro (DX9.0b) -- 4.9 VP
Geforce FX 5800 Ultra (DX9.0a) -- 4.6 VP
Geforce 4 Ti 4600 (DX8.1) -- 3.0 VP
Geforce 3 Ti 500 (DX 8.0) -- 2.2 VP
Radeon 8500 (DX8.1) -- 2.1 VP
Geforce 3 (DX 8.0) -- 2.0 VP
Geforce 2 Ultra (DX 7.1) -- 1.6 VP
Geforce 2 GTS (DX 7.1) -- 1.3 VP
~~~Voodoo 5 6000 (DX 7.0) -- 1 VP~~~

What do you guys think? Those are just my rough guesses from my memory.

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Wow.. amazing set of benchies for 2011 (cool russian site): http://gamegpu.ru/test-video-cards/igry ... t-gpu.html

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Radeon HD 7970's VP ratings increased to 220 VP, from 217 VP (due to driver improvements)!

Radeon HD 7950 added to the list, rated at 186 VP!

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http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha ... es-24.html
I loved their "extreme" presets for 2560x1600 resolution. However, at the most popular resolution with 4xAA, it's not any faster than GTX 580 (and only 1% at 2560x1600 4xAA for that matter too)..

But most other sites seem to show a bit more favorable results for the 7950.

It seems that AMD still has some left to optimize on the drivers for SSAA.. probably not just this but also overall too.

A MIND-BLOWINGLY COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW ON THE 7950, including Stereo3D benches and stuff (more than 40 pages - those damn scientific Germans!): http://ht4u.net/reviews/2012/amd_radeon_hd_7950_test/

and interesting analysis of different AA modes ( the new DX10+ SSAA modes, etc..) tested on the 7950: http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/amd ... ex.php?p=6

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Hey BoFox!

Geforce GTX 560 Ti 2Win 2GB is huge best performance than GTX 580 in any gaming video card.
I'm going to buy this GTX 560 within 30 days later.

Will you dare and post new CPU benchmark? It's more exciting that you can be the #1 owner to review it everything.

Thank you, your bestfriend,

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Just wait for Nvidia's next generation Geforce cards in a matter of weeks!!!

A CPU list would be really complicated for me to do!!! I'd have to split up the list according to the number of CPU cores because a 4-core CPU with HT would perform VERY differently from a 2-core CPU for a certain set of applications. Plus the Bulldozer is even more confusing for many users with only 4 floating point CPUs. Perhaps if the list is just for gaming performance, then it could be less complex but still, there are not that many benchmarks out there for CPU performance. Apoppin did some great benchies.. do you guys want a CPU list too? Oh man..

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UPDATE: Added HD 7770 and 7750 to the ratings, with 94 and 73 Voodoopower respectively!

The 7770 is only 28% faster than 7750 overall, despite having a whopping 56% more shader power. It shows that the 7770 is badly bottlenecked by its 128-bit bus, while the 7750 has identical bandwidth.

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The HD 7770 is actually a great move by AMD.. an ingenious one. For a third-tier GPU chip, it's rated at a hefty 94 VP. Compared against the last two generations (HD 6670 and 5670), this is quite a jump (from 48 VP and 38 VP respectively). BTW, HD 6770 was actually a second-tier Evergreen chip that was just rebadged from HD 5770, still not truly of the Northern Islands generation.

Why so ingenious?

The die size has not really increased at all from HD 6670: 123mm^2 for the 28nm chip vs 118mm^2 for the 40nm chip. (Also, the 5670 -older 40nm chip- is 104mm^2). So, while maintaining the die size, the performance has literally doubled. The performance increase for such a size is amazing, even though the TDP went up from 66W to 80W (by 14W which is not that shabby).

It's such a tiny chip for AMD to produce. Nothing this tiny has ever had such a high starting MSRP ($159-169). Nvidia is certainly a bit agitated about this but Nvidia is the one actually making profits like usual. It's a huge accomplishment for AMD nonetheless (considering the fact that HD 7970 with its 365mm^2 size is only 42% faster than the tiny bit bigger 389mm^2 HD 6970 while consuming roughly the same wattage).

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This is such total Horse-S**t!

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Adam knew he should have bought a PC, but Eve fell for the marketing hype. >:)
Having a lot of people buy your product doesn't do you much good if they subsequently decide they don't like it. There's a reason snake oil salesmen moved from town to town every few days. ;)


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Don't forget that AMD just transitioned from 40 to 28nm. We will see if it is a "huge accomplishment" - or not - for AMD only when Nvidia brings out their new Kepler lineup.

i really NEED to get my hands on a HD 7970 to explore this GCN thoroughly. From what i see comparing what is out (79x0/77x0), it seems a bit unbalanced - like it needs to be fine tuned.


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Right.. I know that AMD has something better up the sleeve (a higher-clocked 7970 with perhaps more shaders).

Not clocking the GPU at 1GHz when it could easily be oc'ed to at least 1150 MHz on average tells me that something is up. It's the same thing with GTX 460 - NV wanted to save some of the thunder for the 5 series, while letting the 460 go for dirt cheap (to snatch back the DX11 marketshare that AMD got an early headstart on).

Clocking the 7970 at 1GHz would've made it consume nearly as much wattage as GTX 580, which is not what AMD wanted. It's quite a deviation from HD 6970, which was clocked rather high with little headroom left for overclocking. AMD is clearly saving the thunder for something coming up soon, and to see what NV's next move is... perhaps to spoil the GK104 launch with this very thing. I think there's more than a 50-50 chance that there will be a fully unlocked Tahiti with 2304sp, clocked at 1 GHz, but that's just my imagination.

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UPDATE: Added HD 6930 (released for Russian and Chinese markets only), rated at 126 VP.

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