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You still have to convince people to wear the glasses though. Which is where it will come unstuck.



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Just like with sunglasses .. no one will wear them

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That is a red herring argument - the only ones who give a crap about it are the journalists looking to make something out of nothing
- Jon Peddie covers the 'glasses issue' very well in my interview with him .. stay tuned for the Mega - 13.5K words, so far) 3D Vision evaluation
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Sunglasses don't fatigue your eyes though. Most people watch tv to relax, not to develop migraines and eye-strain.



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And what about in the cinema using glasses for Avatar, for example?

Few complaints. And very few complaints about the 3D Vision glasses - if you take the time to reduce the crosstalk/ghosting in your games. Few complaints with the TV.

Glasses free TVs will not solve these issues as they also require you to be in a pretty precise zone and all S3D is prone to some ghosting. However the overall experience overcompensates for any small deficits over watching in 2D.

You really shouldn't spend hours upon hours gaming or watching (2D) TV without breaks.
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You should not spend hours watching tv without breaks, true, but millions do and broadcasters know it (and depend on it) which is another reason why 3D content will be slow to arrive from them.

3D won't be a true success until we leave current display tech far behind. Bring on the holodeck.



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You should not spend hours watching tv without breaks, true, but millions do and broadcasters know it (and depend on it) which is another reason why 3D content will be slow to arrive from them.

3D won't be a true success until we leave current display tech far behind. Bring on the holodeck.

well, until we get it, i will be enjoying S3D PC gaming in the meantime - i really don't care for watching TV nor movies at all
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Me neither. The TV is mainly used by others here, not me except for evening news and documentaries / science type shows.



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Sometimes i listen to the news while i am doing something else.

And i am on a roll .. over 17K words on 3D Vision and no end in sight yet - probably a friday publication since i need more images
(i found the rest of my notes that were really well organized and it was really easy to rewrite them)
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apoppin wrote:
i will be enjoying S3D PC gaming in the meantime - i really don't care for watching TV nor movies at a
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Is 3d gaming really that great? Does it add that much to the experience?
Mark, don't try to sell me on it like you're promoting it for a company, rather pitch it from one gamer to another. That's what people want to hear.

Bottom Line............ Is it worth it?

As for tv--- You don't watch at all? If you do, what shows?



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apoppin wrote:
i will be enjoying S3D PC gaming in the meantime - i really don't care for watching TV nor movies at a
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Is 3d gaming really that great? Does it add that much to the experience?
Mark, don't try to sell me on it like you're promoting it for a company, rather pitch it from one gamer to another. That's what people want to hear.

Bottom Line............ Is it worth it?

As for tv--- You don't watch at all? If you do, what shows?

Can you wait for tonight or tomorrow AM? i am actually writing the conclusion today. The title is,
"3D Vision Mega Evaluation - Gimmick or Gaming's Future?"

i have over 18,000 words already written on 3D Vision and S3D (mostly) gaming. i took 5 months of an S3D detour (and let ABT's 'rating' slide) as i explored over 80 PC games from my library just to give our readers a fair shot at determining the "value" of stereoscopic 3D PC gaming and especially 3D Vision. And i do have a 2560x1600 30" LCD so there is something to compare to.

The article is mostly focused on 3D Vision gaming on a single panel 1080p 120Hz display although i look at 3-panel Surround in 3D; and also looking at the value of a 120Hz display over a 60Hz display. Check out this image provided by Nvidia (i am working on getting my own images for a follow up article; this one is a bit extreme)

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So if you think a 120Hz display is worth it for fast paced 2D gaming, a pair of (wired) 3D Vision glasses will set you back $80 to determine it for yourself.
i will go on the record to say that 3D Vision *Surround* - 3D over 3-panels (like Eyefinity) is not great bang for buck and i am one of those who does not appreciate the wide bezels personally. So i can only recommend it to those with a LOT of disposable cash and who must have the very latest toys. Yes, (when it works great) it adds to the immersion. However, it takes the right game to look awesome over 5670x1080 in 3D and you have to have some pretty expensive HW to run it fluidly.
-- Of course, that is not my conclusion for single panel 1080p 3D Vision gaming .. by tomorrow, you will have my conclusion
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(and i need more pics)
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i listen to the TV while i am doing other things (like making meals or doing other chores) - but never to just sit and "watch" TV.
i listen to the morning news and the first 20 minutes of Good Morning America (some days) and i will catch the 11 PM weather and news summary and sports and then Jay Leno's monologue and off it goes. TV is never on for even an hour a day. OtOH, my notebook PC is connected to the 'net 27/7 and i check the forums and news pretty often except when i am writing
(then i take breaks when the creativity fails or words start to jumble - and then i post here :tease: )


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