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 Post subject: HD3D vs. 3D Vision
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:09 pm 
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Just a head's up. i have been evaluating the LED backlit Viewsonic V3D231 120Hz display for a couple of weeks and it's pretty cool as a monitor. Super thin with good colors and a fast response. Very good connector setup for ease of installaton. It's $350 and it includes 3D polarized glasses and a pair of clip-ons for people with eyeglasses; TriDef 3D SW is also included, so it's inexpensive compared to 3D Vision ($500 for a Display/active glasses).

i am just now starting to compare 3D between the two. On first impressions, the HD3D image is lighter than (even) 3D Vision 2; however you can see the resolution is cut down to each eye. Interesting trade-off. And the movies included with the demo are impressive - but now they pop-out too much.
- i am also guessing there is a HD3D II with the 7000 series :P

Anything you want to see in my evaluation, please LMK. i'm also going to reserve the 2nd post for updates. Expect this evaluation at the end of January. In the meantime, this weekend i will write
3D Vision *2* brings a new level of immersion to Trine 2 and Batman: Arkham City
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:10 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:02 pm 
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i need some help from the HD3D (TriDef) guys.

i don't like AMD's HD3D using TriDef SW. It's OK but a PitA to set up for games that do not have a profile. And it doesn't look as good as 3D Vision (1) overall - there are more artifacts and you can see horizontal lines in the image (it uses half of 1080 lines of resolution to each eye).

i will try it for a couple of weeks; but my review will probably give AMD more reason to hate me. Nvidia is the way to go for 3D now (even if the image is darker; and that is fixed with 3D Vision 2). The only thing that may save AMD's HD3D is the HD 7000 series as it is said to be improved.

Or else i am doing something way wrong
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And to make this review right, i will focus on 3D Vision (1) versus HD3D (TriDef)
- that will pit the two 23" 120Hz displays against each other (Asus vs Viewsonic) and the two "older" technologies
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Nvidia has evidently discounted their older glasses to $100 and no doubt the older displays will also drop in price.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:23 am 
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To see the passive 3D that the ViewSonic V3D231 provides, i don't need HDMI 1.4a nor any particular brand of video card (although it must be powerful enough; 3D still takes a penalty on performance as far as i can see, so far)

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/v3d231.htm

ViewSonic did not even provide a HDMI cable with it - instead i am using the DVI cable and the TriDef SW and having to make profiles for 3D games. What is included

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V3D231, power cable, audio cable, VGA cable, DVI cable, 3D glasses, clip on polarized lenses, Quick Start Guide, ViewSonic Wizard CD-ROM, TriDef 3D software


However, am i missing another kind of 3D? One that uses HDMI 1.4a ?? Or does this display only support TriDef-style passive 3D. There are definite issues with the visuals using the passive polarized glasses.

:scratch:

However, this is a more inexpensive way to do 3D and the monitor itself is very decent.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... yoga089-20

$293 shipped at Amazon with the glasses and TriDef 3D SW.
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Compare to 3D Vision - a 23" 120 Hz display is about $300 - the glasses are $100 more. i guess that is just what i am going to do
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:09 pm 
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i have dozens of adapters but i looked all over and the only HDMI cable that i own has a mini-HDMI and a full-sized HDMI connector. Now the ViewSonic display requires a HDMI full size connection out - but none of the AMD cards have a mini-HDMI port
:banghead:

OtOH, the GTXes all have a mini-HDMI port which makes for a HDMI connection to my ViewSonic display without need for an adapter; i'll have to buy one to use my HDMI cable with a Radeon.
--- However, as i understand it, Tri-Def 3D SW also works with GeForce video cards. So this ViewSonic V3D231 will work in S3D with either vendor; albeit with 1/2 the vertical resolution.
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