I don't have time to have a fanboy flamefest where I would point out all the crap that nVidia has done. Anyone with knowledge of nVidia over the past 10 years will tell you that they have done all the same things that you're saying about AMD. I just can't be bothered doing it. I don't have the time or the patience to spoon feed you the drivel you crave.

No, no. nvidia said they would optimize. They never hid that from anyone. They never accused the competition of optimzations and at the same time claim that they themselves had none.

Nvidia is the one with the killer instinct. The Riva TNT, TNT 2 Ultra, and then Geforce 1 to 2 were all done within a few years, all the while Intel was making discrete AGP graphics cards.

True, Nvidia did slack off with Geforce 3 and 4, allowing ATI to catch them by surprise with the 9700 Pro, but that was because Nvidia was already so much better than the rest of the competition.

Look at what Intel is doing with the Larrabee.. it's a laughabee joke. The Itanium (Itanic) is also considered to be a joke by many - AMD unleashed the Opteron and Athlon 64 that made Intel seriously panic and scuffle with adding 64-bit support to their Xeons and P4's. Intel does not always succeed with a killer instinct that should have been switched on more often and regularly!

Tegra 3 - especially with the upcoming tablets like the amazingly attractive Nexus 7 is like Nvidia's Riva TNT for video cards. Tegra 4 will be like TNT 2 Ultra. Then there will be the Geforce (Tegra 5)!

Let's just wait and see how Nvidia swoops in with this true killer instinct that Intel could only dream of having without being the laughingstock with their laughabee! When it boils down to the bottom line of the end of the decade, graphics really drives the future, not the CPU. The ARM market has already marked its omnipresence, in going past the point of no return with its catalyzed chain-reaction of virally multiplying growth until it takes over the rest, just like Facebook did to Myspace (which not even the brightest analyst could foresee during the infancy stages of Facebook). Once ARM becomes smaller than 22nm, the processing power of ARM will be sufficient for 95+% of CPU-related tasks while the ARM market has already at least doubled than what it is right now. By that time, even if Intel's Medfield is 1.5x faster and just as efficient, nobody would care about the CPU since it becomes all about the graphics - but then what if Nvidia actually designs Tegra 6 to be 2x faster than Intel's 14nm Medfield, CPU-wise let alone graphics-wise?!?

I'd love to see Nvidia with this serious killer instinct again!

Intel would then have to source the fabs to Nvidia's Tegra production!

I don't know how anybody could possibly claim GeForce 3 was slacking off, considering the change it brought to graphics chips. It was the the turning point from fixed-function to programmable -- the birth of the GPU.

GeForce 4 was lazy, that I will grant you, but sold extremely well, and the GF4 Ti 4200 is in the history books as one of the best value graphics cards of all time.

I think you misunderstand Larrabee. Most people did. It scared the life out of nvidia with the graphics rumors while paving the way for intel to enter HPC compute. I think it has done everything intel intended it to, and in just one generation too, the ball has barely started rolling.

And can Intel really get the ball rolling at all, while pouring $10+ billion dollars the way that the Itanic went?

I could see Intel pulling a "Radeon 8500" like ATI did, but definitely NEVER a 9700 Pro, ever.

They aren't interested in graphics outside of integrated although, using a larrabee successor as a shading engine and the igpu as the frame buffer renderer could be very interesting. Larrabee as a graphics card was just a ploy to put the wind up nvidia and distract from HPC and the progress being made on the integrated front.

http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/08/exit- ... -business/



That interview is from 2009. Nowadays intels does in excess of $12 billion per quarter. $10 billion is nothing to them if they decided they REALLY wanted to do graphics.

They damn well should be.. graphics will be 10x bigger than CPU before they realize it.

what the ??????

where do you come up with this stuff? seriously? i mean, are you for real? this has got to be a joke right?

It was the cover story, Ocre, for gullible people to believe and help panic nvidia into abandoning their chipset efforts and x86 compatibility ideas.


http://www.anandtech.com/show/6017/inte ... es-retail/

Larrabee is coming, but as Xeon Phi -- a HPC accelerator, not a graphics card.