http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33932576

There are several people in this thread that say the same thing I said about it- that once you've done 3d, you don't go back.

As a $600 add on that requires high end graphics as well every other guy on the net isn't going to have it, and the fanATics like Creig, ronnn, thilan, etc won't even consider it.

When you throw in a lot of the review sites tried to review it like they would a HD4850 only noting framerates, things you have to turn off, and that you can't really understand what it's like without playing it, it's not an easy sell in times of recession.

I still love it 7 months in, and once you've played a game it works well on most of the time like UT2004 you realize the rest of the world is basically watching a 12" black and white tv in comparison. The only thing I've seen that's half as good as this is gaming at 25x16 on 3007WFP-HC, and if I had to choose one or the other I'd take the 3d Vision in a heartbeat. (of course I'd rather stick with both)

I'm rocking the best of both worlds now- Quad SLi GTX295 on the 3007, GTX 295 single for the 3d Vision. It's the proverbial "win/win".

haha, reading that sounds awesome, very fun and makes me want to believe you. But since this is the internet (can't judge if a person is lying by expressions as in real life) and you are related to Nvidia, I can't completely believe you.

Why don't you hook us up with one ? and let us see for itself ?

Haven't seen too much reviews around the net on it, seems like Nvidia is not sending out enough samples of 3D.

And this has to be the hardest thing to review, since you can't show it to your readers. All you can do is hope that they believe what you write on 3D Vision.

Read the Rage3d thread, those guys aren't related to NVIDIA. I can't hook anyone up with anything- I'm only on the receiving end.

that IS what i am saying

Nvidia has a tough time gaining traction when they don't show it to anyone

- i don't expect a damn thing from Nvidia - they should expect the same thing in return from us consumers
- disbelief

crappy marketing - or else Nvidia is not really pushing it - as they said would do; i don't see ANY public demonstrations of it 7 months after launch


3D looks .. so far .. like an epic fail

By "epic" do you mean:

AMD buys ATi size fail?

AMD launches defective Phenom size fail?

AMD launches VLIW, TMU's missing 2900XT size fail?

Or maybe just AMD tries to buy back market by cutting their own throat, ends up with successful company's boot on their windpipe and losing marketshare anyway size fail?

Just so I'm clear on the definition of "epic".......

Epic - read the Iliad by Homer - failure - look in an English dictionary


You speak to me as if i personally care about AMD; about their sloppy marketing, their moronic attempts at viral marketing, their internal disharmony, their missed timing or their bad decisions
- why?



We are talking about Nvidia here and their launch of 3D vision, over 7 months ago
- they trumpeted it as the next big thing .. but they have done almost nothing about it .. nothing they said they would do

. . . and i see no market penetration

that is my definition of epic fail
---are we clear on that now?

LOL I read the Illiad in HS.

I guess I don't agree with your definition of "epic fail".

1. The tech is the best tech of it's kind, by far.
2. I see people speaking highly of it on the PC Perspective forums, the nZone forums, and the Rage3d forums- so it has some market penetration.
3. Their main competitor, AMD, has alluded to entering that market as well. Apparently they don't think it's as much of a failure as you as they feel they need to compete. LOL
4. What qualifies you to judge it as a failure without knowledge of sales, profit, the experience, or user satisfaction? Because you're one of ABT's "industry professionals, available to help hardware and software vendors"? You'll have to pardon my skepticism- in my world degrees,certifications, and relevant work
experience are all that matter. What were yours again?

What's yours other than being a parrot?

BA Psych, BS Business, 11 years in IT/IS. I've also been under NDA with NVIDIA for over 5 years.

Nothing as notable as "Inventor of the dsl modem" as you are reputed to be, but I haven't been washing cars either.

Apoppin has never worked in anything computer related, has no degrees, and is not under NDA with NVIDIA.

To me that makes him not qualified to cavalierly pass judgement on big business in the IT world just because he's been hanging around on forums tossing insults. What about him makes him an "industry professional"?

BTW- I don't have anything against Apoppin, I'm just saying he (or I) have never done anything remotely as successful as 3d Vision.

Edit 2: Other difference is I don't hold myself out as an "industry professional" in this industry. I'm a hobbyist who helps out NVIDIA by reporting my user experience on forums, forwards problems I see posted, moderates forums, and as you say, posts press releases for NVIDIA.

Do you remember any of it?
- i read the unexpurgated version in Jr Hi - the one with the gay gods and bisexual Hercules

1. If Nvidia's 3D is the best .. why is there no traction?
2. Not "nZone" and the other viral marketing
3. "alluded"
4. What qualifies *anyone* to make judgments? - as a Consumer or whatever ?


in your world, deceit and viral marketing are king .. please pardon my skepticism when you claim it might be successful in the absence of any sales figures