ASRock X58 Extreme?

Flyby · **Joined:** Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:53 am **Posts:** 22

gstanford wrote:

I don't know if its the BIOS or the drivers that causes this, everyone (with the problem) @ newegg was saying windows would load the wrong chipset drivers during install and you could check this by trying to install the latest intel storage drivers.

In any case, I'd always run the latest BIOS for any motherboard, unless you had a good reason not to (latest version would cause a device of yours not to recognise/work or something).

rgrt. good looking out,G. a word to the wise is sufficient (or something like that). (gj)

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apoppin · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:43 am

Flyby wrote:

apoppin wrote:

Flyby wrote:

thanks for the replies, guys. I suppose if I could get a Gigabyte UD3R for the same bucks I might go that route, but the ASRock X58 Extreme is definitely in my budget range (once I cash in a few more aluminum cans!)
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i think either one would be good

For some reason, i am liking Gigabyte - and i buy all of my own mobos. The only issue i have had is with my GA-MA790X-UDP4 - with the ethernet LAN failing. i got a wireless N-adapter so i won't RMA a mobo for that; at least not now as i am still testing with it

One thing - i hope you are not upgrading to i7 for games. So far, it appears that Q9550 - and even Phenom II - hold their own against i7 paired with a GTX 280 (GTX 275/HD 4890 class) and also 4870-X2 class of card (probably including GTX 295/HD 5870) at 16x10 and 19x12 with most details maxed out, stock, 3.5GHz and each near 4 GHz.

well...actually I am building a gaming system based on the i7-920. :banghead:

But what could I do? Micro Center had it on sale for $200.00. That's $84.00 less than I could find it on the web. I can put the difference towards other components, and use the X58/socket1366 chipset to upgrade to a 6-core CPU when it becomes available (and prices drop). Otherwise, I'd have probably been just as well served to go with the 1156 chipset, which performs just as well in gaming but has a lower tdp when overclocked. Since I opened the box I can't take it back, but otherwise it's never been touched. Tough cookies, eh?
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oh Good tip about the bios version, gstanford

Not really tough cookies. i would HATE to be picking out a s1156 mobo:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17351

Of course, i always pick the latest BIOS. However, i tend not to update it if there are no issues. i have not checked to see if my Gigabyte has a new BIOS since i updated mine; if that has any difference with the LAN - or not

Flyby · **Joined:** Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:53 am **Posts:** 22

I'm aware of the faulty sockets in the 1156 mobos. That's really too bad this defect made it out the door to so many mobo suppliers. Besides, I feel OK about my processor choice, even though it's not the best choice price/performance-wise. But again, for $200.00...
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apoppin · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:43 am

Flyby wrote:

I'm aware of the faulty sockets in the 1156 mobos. That's really too bad this defect made it out the door to so many mobo suppliers. Besides, I feel OK about my processor choice, even though it's not the best choice price/performance-wise. But again, for $200.00...
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i don't know .. you are talking about i7 D 920 as not the best choice for price/performance
- what is? i certainly don't want to be PCIe bandwidth-limited as with s1156
:scratch:

i am quite satisfied with my i7 at 3.8 GHz (with Turbo) at stock voltage on a cheap HSF
- it will probably do well over 4 GHz when the Noctua HSF arrives; not bad for $280 (Microcenter is a 4 hour drive thru traffic for me; and i got D0 anyway)
:good:

Flyby · **Joined:** Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:53 am **Posts:** 22

Sorry apoppin,
Let me be clear (where'd I hear that one?). From all the comparative tests Ive read, the 1156/i7-8xx series CPU performs as well as the i7-920 in PC games. It's so close it's a wash, and that even with the bandwidth-limited pci-e architecture. Socket issues aside, that is the better choice for a purely gaming rig. I'm not certain about the upgrade path, but certainly in the here-and-now it's extremely attractive to those who have limited dollars to spend on a new system. Of course I'm trying to buck that trend with my purchases and I think I can make it close, dollar for dollar. I like [H]ard OCP's website for a good review so here's a link for you. Check it out. See what you think: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/ ... rocessors/
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apoppin · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:22 pm

i don't have to read that particular review to know how close they are performancewise - i did a bit of research before deciding on s1366 - as an overclocker and a multi-GPU gamer, s1156 wasn't even a close second

.. but i do know there is a LOT of buyer's remorse on s1156

Now when you say a budget is "tight", i think of gaming on Phenom II
- there is SO little difference pricewise between the two Intel platforms - unless you go 'super budget', there really isn't a LOT of price variance

apoppin · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:28 pm

i just looked at the conclusion:

Quote:

The Core i5-750 systems that I have used here are not as fluid as our Core i7 systems. At this time I have personally tested four Intel P55 Express chipset motherboards and all of them have the same feel using the Windows 7 RC operating system. I have always been a big proponent of Intel’s HyperThreading and it is certainly a value in the Core i7 product lineup. That said, I am splitting hairs. I likely would never feel the differences if I was not working with a myriad of both Core i5 and Core i7 systems side by side all the time. The Core i7 processors’ HyperThreading still gives its user a creamy OS goodness experience that is second to none. The difference in UI feel is subtle, but it is there.

If you look at HyperThreading in terms of dollars, the Core i7-860 is showing to sell for about $85 more than the Core i5-750. That $85 will get you a bit better performance in highly threaded applications that take advantage of HyperThreading and give you a marginally better User Interface experience.

It sure looks like *the reviewer* personally likes i7 better
:tease:

i think i would spend the few extra bucks - IF i was bothering to upgrade at all
- if you have a fast quad core and are a gamer with a single 5870 (or equivalent) - why bother at all?
:scratch:

rtaylor07 · **Joined:** Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:28 pm **Posts:** 4

I currently own the x58 Extreme and have mostly good things to say about it. Currently I have 12gb of gskill 1600 an i7-920, and an ocz 200mbs read/write ssd. The mobo handled everything on the first boot and the drivers initialized as if I've had the board for a long time. I am using an 8800gtx super clocked vid card at the moment awaiting the release of the hd 5970.

I have my 920 at 3.999ghz stable after running prime 95 for about 10hrs. I would recommend setting all the oc specs yourself and not using the oc tuner the board has as it just doesn't know what it's doing. I tried it, it didn't set the multiplier correctly or the voltages so it was never accurate. If you have an specific questions please ask in this thread and I will try my best to reply promptly. Also this is my first post ;p

apoppin · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:39 pm

rtaylor07 wrote:

I currently own the x58 Extreme and have mostly good things to say about it. Currently I have 12gb of gskill 1600 an i7-920, and an ocz 200mbs read/write ssd. The mobo handled everything on the first boot and the drivers initialized as if I've had the board for a long time. I am using an 8800gtx super clocked vid card at the moment awaiting the release of the hd 5970.

I have my 920 at 3.999ghz stable after running prime 95 for about 10hrs. I would recommend setting all the oc specs yourself and not using the oc tuner the board has as it just doesn't know what it's doing. I tried it, it didn't set the multiplier correctly or the voltages so it was never accurate. If you have an specific questions please ask in this thread and I will try my best to reply promptly. Also this is my first post ;p

Welcome to ABT!
:hello:

i never use any overclock tuners except to play with them.

What CPU cooler are you using? My Hyper N212 cannot handle the heat - even with 2- 120 MM fans in push-pull - so i am getting the i7 Noctua cooler this week and will try for a real overclock. Currently i am at 3.80 GHz with Turbo (standard) on.

i notice that the 21X multiplier comes into play and it will automatically overclock further to 3.97 GHz. Do you leave turbo on?
-- i am going to test with it on and off (and also with HT on and off, as i sometimes get irregular results with a few games' performance).

Flyby · **Joined:** Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:53 am **Posts:** 22

rtaylor07 wrote:

I currently own the x58 Extreme and have mostly good things to say about it. Currently I have 12gb of gskill 1600 an i7-920, and an ocz 200mbs read/write ssd. The mobo handled everything on the first boot and the drivers initialized as if I've had the board for a long time. I am using an 8800gtx super clocked vid card at the moment awaiting the release of the hd 5970.

I have my 920 at 3.999ghz stable after running prime 95 for about 10hrs. I would recommend setting all the oc specs yourself and not using the oc tuner the board has as it just doesn't know what it's doing. I tried it, it didn't set the multiplier correctly or the voltages so it was never accurate. If you have an specific questions please ask in this thread and I will try my best to reply promptly. Also this is my first post ;p

hi rt, and welcome. I appreciate your feedback on the X58 Extreme. I'll keep your overclocking advice in mind in particular. Nice first post too.

apoppin, I have no system at all. it's a matter of going from my old gamer (p4-2.8c), which fried, to a new system (with a bit of a recession in between). here's a link about CPU cooling:
http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/ ya oughta find a bit of something there you can use. oh,and :tease:

back atcha! :grin:

Flyby out
Oh, look what I found (a recent X58 Extreme review) http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?id=200

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