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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews  Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:33 pm |
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The AMD fanboys have awful reading comprehension - perhaps AI lacks understanding i NEVER said the HD 7970 was going to be hot running - in fact the leaked slides i posted showed it to be cool and highly overclockable. i actually said it was going to be like the GTX 480 - short-lived. It *is* going to be short-lived. Like x1800xt > x1900xt. There is no way around it - HD 7970 is an under-performer as to expectations for 28nm. +25% over the GTX 580 is nothing to crow about for a full node shrink. The features are nice, the OC and GPU compute is good; the performance lacks. i'd also like to test it against the HD 6970 in DX9 games. 
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Googoo24
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:29 pm |
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Short-lived or not. Still awesome card. Give me yours when you get it. After the review.
I command it.
Appopin vs the Internets (and Charlie). WTF is going on around here?
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Googoo24
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:55 pm |
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BTW, according to the Guru Charlie. Who's right about everything! I mean he was right about Bulldozer and the 6970, wasn't he? Wasn't he? WASN'T HE!?
You got the hook-up from Nvidia. Get me some info on Kepler.
That'd be my christmas present! Peace bro-ski!
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:39 pm |
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Googoo24
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:29 pm |
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Wreckage
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:24 pm |
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I agree with the first comment on Anand's site regarding the 7970. It's kind of a disappointment. Certainly better than the 6970, but not over the 580 and will most likely be regarded as poor vs Kepler.
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SirPauly
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:40 pm |
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Googoo24 wrote: BTW, according to the Guru Charlie. Who's right about everything! I mean he was right about Bulldozer and the 6970, wasn't he? Wasn't he? WASN'T HE!?
You got the hook-up from Nvidia. Get me some info on Kepler.
That'd be my christmas present! Peace bro-ski! The key to the sensationalistic mind-set: spin and one may always claim to be right. He is a sensationalistic blogger to me. He is still clamoring about close to a 6990 and all one has to do is offer a few examples and may claim to be right.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:43 pm |
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5261/amd- ... -review/25Ryan put it really well: Quote: At the end of the day the 7970 is specifically targeted as a gaming workhorse. Regardless of any architecture changes, what’s important is how fast the card is, how much it costs, whether it works correctly, and what its physical attributes are like. With respect to all of these aspects AMD has made an acceptable card, but this is not a groundbreaking product like we’ve seen in the past.
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At the same time the 7970 is not the 5870. The 5870 relative to both NVIDIA and AMD’s previous generation video cards was faster on a percentage basis. It was more clearly a next-generation card, and DX11 only helped to seal the deal. Meanwhile if you look at straight averages the 7970 is only around 15-25% faster than the GTX 580 in our tests, with its advantage being highly game dependent. It always wins at 2560 and 1920, but there are some cases where it’s not much of a win. The 7970’s domination of the 6970 is more absolute, but then again the 6970 is a good $200 cheaper at this point in time.
... AMD has chosen to price the 7970 like a current generation card – it’s priced relative to a 3GB GTX 580 – and that’s a fair metric. What it isn’t is groundbreaking in any sense.
So at the end of the day AMD has once again retaken the performance crown for single-GPU cards, bringing them back to a position they last held nearly 2 years ago with the 5870. To that AMD deserves kudos, and if you’re in the market for a $500+ video card the 7970 is clearly the card to get – it’s a bit more expensive than the GTX 580, but it’s reasonably faster and cooler all at once. However if you’ve been waiting for 28nm GPUs to bring about another rapid decrease in video card prices as we saw with the 5870, you’re going to be waiting a bit longer. i called it right in the preview. 
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SirPauly
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:52 pm |
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Ryan does a nice job and impressed. What impressed me more was the editorial in a sense on how he missed the filtering problems/limitations with the 5870 and sort of apologized to his readers some time ago -- takes an impressive mind-set to take the flak, acknowledge it, learn from it and move forward.
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tviceman
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Post subject: Re: The HD 7970 thread - $679 from Weston/1st reviews Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:45 pm |
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Now for those of us that already have fast 40nm cards (hd6970 or gtx570 or better), it's the sit and wait game for Nvidia to get Kepler out of the gate. I'm excited for Kepler; Fermi was the big GPGPU architectural change toward GPGPU. Hopefully, Kepler will be a more refined and efficient GPU (aside from the fact that it's on a smaller node process).
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