Hey Keysplayr, thank you sincerely for "no hard feelings", (with respect - it was very positive of you) - it does not seem that Nvidia is really reading [H] reviews doing unfair reviews against Geforce cards for the entire year of 2011 (and some of 2010), or even now:

[H]ardOCP was claiming Radeon cards to use Adaptive AA in DX11 games when it was not a feature for Radeon cards before HD 7970 came out.

See:

http://henterprise.hardocp.com/article/ ... d_review/4
(mentioned in 2 different charts, and mentioned twice for HD 6990 and HD 6970 CFX)


http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/11/ ... d_review/3
(mentioned in both charts, including Apples-for-Apples, for HD 5870)


They were already very well aware of the Radeons being unable to do Adaptive AA in DX10/11 games, having done many IQ tests in different games.

This, in addition to making HD 7770 look "equivalent" to GTX 560 Ti, and literally stating that "HD 6970 blows GTX 570 out of the water for only a few more bucks," probably all went unnoticed by Nvidia.

Do you think it's enough to report [H]'s unfair reviews to Nvidia?

I'll keep my eyes open for more.. if it's not enough.

7980.....Q4

Glad to have a web master back on duty; i have much back work to publish


And Bo, make sure to use the PM feature also. It is easy to miss individual posts. i am really not sure that HardOCP did it on purpose. IQ is not their strong point.

However, one of the criticisms i have heard is that when HardOCP tested multi-GPU on their previous x58 system (they used i7-920), they tested using 3 Nvidia cards using the 3rd PCIe X4 slot vs. 2 x16 PCIe slots for AMD, skewing the results in favor of AMD.


If AMD planned it with the respin nearly concurrent with the chip we now have, it could be Q3

Seriously? I did include some of the back and forth banter, you know. And I know Balla leans more to nvidia.

GaiaHunter: "This small die GK104 is rumoured to be similar size to the AMD flagship."
SilverForce: "Its about the same size. "
Then they were corrected (it's not "similar" -- it's "smaller"). They have to be forced into admitting nvidia has a die size advantage otherwise they use weasel words to try and cover it up.

Of course, most of the worst AMD trolls are "vacationing" at the moment, or it likely would have gotten much worse.

Da'Nile ain't just a river in Egypt...........

To show the Die size denial going on at ATF. Not implying that you were contributing to it -- in fact you were one of those forcing the perpetrators to correct themselves on the issue.

Really? How so? They survived the 3dfx year despite voodoo cards often being faster (at the expense of IQ and features), they survived nv3x, even made a profit on those chips , they did very well with nv4x against the x800 series despite claims it was faster (at the expense of features and IQ), same with 78/900 vs XT19x0.

"Not having the fastest gpu is very bad for Nvidia." is a fevered figment of the FanATIcs viraly infected imagination.

CharLIE and OBR have started their engines

CharLIE is saying Kepler is launching next week:
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/03/05/nvid ... in-a-week/

OBR is saying CharLIE is wrong:
http://www.obr-hardware.com/2012/03/sem ... about.html

Who will win the race?

That's the truth and the awesome part about it is AMD will likely hurt itself by madly rushing out its "GCN 2.0 Tenerife" product. They think they are being clever, but the truth is it will look desperate to everyone else, and unlike with R520 to R580 they won't have hardware issues or bugs to explain the mad rush away. Sure, such a product might regain them a lead over GK104, but only just in time to have that lead stolen again by GK110. This, I'm sure will be the genius of Kepler.

Why would Charlie know anything? He hasn't posted a solid bit of information yet on Kepler

I hate to do this since I don't like char-lie very much myself, but:

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/19/nvid ... ar-winner/ (dated Jan 19)

Then this week a pic of a GK104 PCB turns up, and it matches his description quite nicely.