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SickBeast
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:10 pm |
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apoppin wrote: This is principle. We don't need a HD 7990. It may appeal to 1/10th of 1 percent of video card purchasers. That's fair and you've already invested in the 7970. IMO this is going to be a long and drawn out affair. It will take months for anything to happen. 
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Keysplayr
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:40 pm |
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:58 am Posts: 528 Location: New York
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I had a strong feeling Chris Hook was just patronizing you to put out a fire, but Mark, are you certain he just didn't go on vacation or something like right after you last spoke with him? Are you sending emails to him with confirm receipt options? Just make sure man. I'd hate to see Chris come back to you all bent out of shape because he is in the middle of his investigation and then seeing these posts here. If you HAVE given every effort and benefit of doubt and you DO know he isn't on any vacation, then have at it hard as you please. Front page, news feeds, the consumerist. Not a time to pull punches.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:52 pm |
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Keysplayr wrote: I'd hate to see Chris come back to you all bent out of shape because he is in the middle of his investigation and then seeing these posts here. How many weeks shall we give him? More than 3? 4? How about a year? If someone is in the middle of an "investigation", you think he's have the courtesy to get back to us within a week? Two? It's almost 3. Ridiculous i just got the email from Sapphire today that they are releasing the VaporX and then right after an apology that it was sent out at all 
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Nsavop
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:20 pm |
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apoppin wrote: This is principle. We don't need a HD 7990. It may appeal to 1/10th of 1 percent of video card purchasers. IMO, all you need from them is there top dog and midrange gpus to do evaluations (ex. 8970 & 8870)
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SickBeast
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:28 pm |
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apoppin wrote: Keysplayr wrote: I'd hate to see Chris come back to you all bent out of shape because he is in the middle of his investigation and then seeing these posts here. How many weeks shall we give him? More than 3? 4? How about a year? If someone is in the middle of an "investigation", you think he's have the courtesy to get back to us within a week? Two? It's almost 3. Ridiculous i just got the email from Sapphire today that they are releasing the VaporX and then right after an apology that it was sent out at all  There are several ways you can read into AMD's silence: 1. They don't care. 2. They found evidence of the problem and are embarrassed about it and are avoiding the media. 3. They've done nothing at all. See #1. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. I'm curious as to what the Consumerist is going to do, if anything.
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:41 pm |
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If i were AMD, i'd be more concerned about the FTC.
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SickBeast
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:07 pm |
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apoppin wrote: If i were AMD, i'd be more concerned about the FTC. Honestly, I'm not sure how seriously they will all take this. I don't know what kind of evidence you have. Surely it must be substantial. You come across as very intelligent and very reasonable. Anyhow, good luck with it all. 
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:31 pm |
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They tried to make ABT an AMD flog. We got an exclusive interview with Nigel Dessau arranged by their viral stealth marketer, David Makin. We were pretty naive, i guess. Soon as we figured it out, we turned them dowm
i think that is a pretty serious allegation. AMD's viral marketer was encouraging us to set up as an AMD flog that would not need to disclose where their HW came from. i am an eye-witness to AMD's lack of ethics and there is no way that ABT would go along with it.
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SickBeast
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:35 pm |
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apoppin wrote: They tried to make ABT an AMD flog. We got an exclusive interview with Nigel Dessau arranged by their viral stealth marketer, David Makin. We were pretty naive, i guess. Soon as we figured it out, we turned them dowm
i think that is a pretty serious allegation. AMD's viral marketer was encouraging us to set up as an AMD flog that would not need to disclose where their HW came from. i am an eye-witness to AMD's lack of ethics and there is no way that ABT would go along with it. Yes that is bad. What kind of evidence do you have to back up your claim, though? And if they did that with ABT, are there any actual examples of "AMD flog" websites out there?
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apoppin
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Post subject: Re: AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - nV SM policy change?  Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:02 pm |
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David Makin's published blogs on ABT; his own words in his posts and his private conversations with me.
Yes. See if you don't see some rather obvious posters at ATF - CPU especially - that "review" AMD HW without disclosure as to where they get it. And they post their AMD flog links all over the tech forums.
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