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 Post subject: An OC'd GTX 690 can saturate PCIe 2.0 16x !!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:25 am 
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Update. Yes it can!!

An overclocked GTX 690 is slightly limited by PCIe 2.0 x16 or PCIe 3.0 x8
-- and it varies from game to game.

At least there is a performance degradation between testing an overclocked GTX 690 in the ECS' primary MB X16 slot and testing in the secondary X16_S slots

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Same question would be, does it need more bandwidth than PCIe 3.0 8x can provide?
- The GTX 690 is overclocked to +132%/+150MHz core/+500MHz memory
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What do you think? i am testing it now in my Z77 ECS mb that i just evaluated. i *thought* the 2nd PCIe slot is 8x as it is labeled 16x_S (the primary one is labeled 16x)
-- the MB manual shows both are 8x when used together; however, GPU-Z now identifies it as 16x (where i was pretty sure it identified it as 8x earlier when i tried the GTX 690 in the second slot).

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 Post subject: Re: Does an OC'd GTX 690 need more bandwidth than PCIe 2.0 16x ?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:38 am 
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Your slots will be 8x when used together in PCI-e 3.0 mode, which is still the equivelant of 16x PCI-e 2.0 mode for each slot.


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 Post subject: Re: Does an OC'd GTX 690 need more bandwidth than PCIe 2.0 16x ?
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PCIe 2.0 16x is sufficient for a OC'd GTX 690


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 Post subject: Re: Does an OC'd GTX 690 need more bandwidth than PCIe 2.0 16x ?
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Here is my question:

If i use the second slot, the one labeled 16X_S, is that a X8 slot?

- i know when the X16_S slot when used with the first slot labeled 16X, both are X8.

But is a 16X_S slot, 8X if it is used without a card in the first slot?
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What is the bandwidth of a PCIe 2.0 X16 slot?


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 Post subject: Re: Does an OC'd GTX 690 need more bandwidth than PCIe 2.0 16x ?
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jaydip wrote:
PCIe 2.0 16x is sufficient for a OC'd GTX 690

Do we have any reviews up that substantiate this? Or is it taken for granted?


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 Post subject: Re: Does an OC'd GTX 690 need more bandwidth than PCIe 2.0 16x ?
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Only the motherboard manual can really answer that for you.

Ivy bridge has 16 PCI-e 3.0 lanes integrated into it available for graphics use. How the motherboard maker implements that on a specific board will vary, but, in theory if nothing is in the first slot, then the second slot *should* be able to use all 16 lanes.



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 Post subject: Re: Does an OC'd GTX 690 need more bandwidth than PCIe 2.0 16x ?
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apoppin wrote:
jaydip wrote:
PCIe 2.0 16x is sufficient for a OC'd GTX 690

Do we have any reviews up that substantiate this? Or is it taken for granted?

Calculate the bandwidth of a OC'd GTX 690 and then check the bandwidth of a PCIe 2.0 16x slot,u will see that it is very difficult to saturate it yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Does an OC'd GTX 690 need more bandwidth than PCIe 2.0 16x ?
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apoppin wrote:
jaydip wrote:
PCIe 2.0 16x is sufficient for a OC'd GTX 690

Do we have any reviews up that substantiate this? Or is it taken for granted?

Do you honestly believe that there are so many users of PCI-e 3.0 out there that nvidia can afford to turn their backs on PCI-e 2.0 users?



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 Post subject: Re: Does an OC'd GTX 690 need more bandwidth than PCIe 2.0 16x ?
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The difference is not much

At least i am finding a difference - there is lower performance of a highly overclocked GTX 690 in the 2nd PCIe X16_S slot than there is in the primary PCI3 X16 slot.


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Calculate the bandwidth of a OC'd GTX 690 and then check the bandwidth of a PCIe 2.0 16x slot,u will see that it is very difficult to saturate it yet.


What do you come up with? And the bandwidth of a PCIe 2.0 16x Slot may be theoretically plenty, but what about in practice?

i got the GTX 690 screaming along at +150MHz core/+550MHz memory .. that is way faster than GTX 680 SLI - on a single card


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