(06-09-2015, 09:57 PM)SteelCrysis Wrote: http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-announces-1tb-xbox-one-retailing-for-399-with-new-wireless-controller
They're also bundling Halo: MCC with it for a limited time.

(06-09-2015, 11:04 PM)gstanford Wrote: Sony console owners are quite used to being able to upgrade or add hard drives themselves.

(06-11-2015, 05:04 PM)gstanford Wrote: You don't take a PS4 apart to replace the hard drive.  You slide off one plastic top cover and remove one screw.  Your granny could do it blindfolded.

You'd better be a damn fast walker if you want to talk with me while I'm travelling up an on ramp in my Yaris.  You don't need ridiculous amounts of horsepower when there is only a lightweight car body to push along.  Have you forgotten your high-school physics (or did you party through that just like you did college first time around)?

Quote:Please note that Toyota Yaris 0-60 times and 1/4 mile were measured on an enclosed site to eliminate such variables as wind, weather or traction, so you should not be surprised if your own zero to sixty tests on the street may show lower results.

(06-12-2015, 08:15 AM)gstanford Wrote: You were talking about going up an on-ramp, not running a 1/4 mile race!

The Yaris is plenty powerful enough for normal street and highway use.  Will easily get you to the legal speed limit and keep you there in both scenarios.

(06-12-2015, 08:38 AM)gstanford Wrote: Don't drive like an idiot and you will never have to worry about being in a crash like that.  (I've never been in a crash that was my fault and never crashed at all in my Yaris).  That includes trying to go from 0 to 60 in under 10 seconds (which you won't be doing from an on ramp to a highway anyway since you are likely already travelling 40 - 60 km/h on the on-ramp as you merge.

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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:T4pUozFOhqgJ:www.topgear.com/au/car-news/toyota-yaris-hybrid-r-frankfurt-motor-show-2013-08-19+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

(06-12-2015, 09:56 AM)gstanford Wrote: Sound like it is your local road designers that are causing the problems not what you drive.  Our on/off ramps are sensibly designed here nowadays.  Even if I have to come to a total halt in the merging lane (very rare) waiting for a traffic opening, I'm up to 80 km/h again in well under 10 secs.  The Yaris simply isn't as slow as you think it is in normal traffic situations.

If you think the Yaris crumples badly you should check out what equivalent Honda's and Nissan's do.  The Yaris has very thick and sturdy body panels compared to them (they feel like they are built out of tin foil).

As for other people causing accidents, drive defensively, watch what they are doing at all times so you can avoid them.  Don't sit in your car watching a DVD or whatever.  Like I said before don't drive like an idiot (that includes being aware of what other drivers around you are doing) and you have little to fear from accidents.

(06-12-2015, 05:15 PM)gstanford Wrote: and yet in the wake of the US car industry meltdown the American car industry promised the government in writing, published in major newspapers, that they would stop focusing on pickup trucks and SUV's and start developing cars that people actually want (cars a lot more like a Yaris than a pickup truck).

At least we know what the US car industries promises are worth - nothing.  No wonder they are fighting Tesla tooth and nail over direct vs dealership sales, otherwise Tesla would wipe the dinosaurs out overnight.

And no, if the F150 magically cost the same as my Yaris both to purchase and fuel, I still would not want to purchase it over my Yaris.  American SUV's and pickup trucks belong on railway lines, not urban streets!

(06-12-2015, 06:01 PM)gstanford Wrote: I have a Wii console buried somewhere.

I dispute that my Yaris is a lesser car than an F150.  To me a car is a means of getting from point A to point B first and foremost.  The cheaper it can do this and the more reliably it can do this determines how good it is to me, not how many pointless toys and luxuries and distractions are crammed into its cabin.

My Yaris has all the instrumentation you require to operate it properly it has seating that is comfortable enough and it has a weatherproof cargo storage area.  It is economical to purchase, maintain and run.  And it will be running long after your oversized monstrosity has a date with destiny in a car crusher.

AMD CPU's are poor value for money, unreliable (they 'breakdown' running code that other processors handle just fine), they are expensive to fuel (eat lots of power) and they pollute (produce lots of heat compared to other processors that outperform them).

(06-13-2015, 08:25 PM)gstanford Wrote:

(06-14-2015, 07:11 AM)gstanford Wrote: I wouldn't be so sure of that.  There are still thousands of them on the road world-wide.  They are unkillable.

The only reason I got rid of mine was I didn't want the cost of converting the head to use unleaded petrol, so I got a modern Corolla instead.

(06-14-2015, 08:29 AM)ocre Wrote: Really?  This again?

Gstan loves his Yaris and there isnt anything wrong with that.  

Rollo, you act like you want to take that away from him.   People like different things.  You like full size, US made trucks. Its pointless to go back and forth in circles.   Trust me, grstan dislikes your truck as much as you dislike the yaris.   Lets just move on.

(06-14-2015, 06:37 PM)gstanford Wrote: But those Yaris's in the parking lot wouldn't belong to anyone you know, right Rollo?........    You're a pathetic spinmeister.

(06-14-2015, 07:02 PM)gstanford Wrote: You've said before that nobody you know drives a Yaris, yet you are sure there may be one or two at your work's parking lot.  Caught in your own spin!

(06-14-2015, 07:31 PM)gstanford Wrote: So you are saying that Toyota, Nissan, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Mazda, Honda, KIA, Hyundia etc should all just close up their USA dealerships and go home because no americans ever purchase their cars and never have?!

You're fucking pathetic!

(06-11-2015, 10:48 AM)gstanford Wrote:

(06-10-2015, 11:32 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:

(06-09-2015, 11:04 PM)gstanford Wrote: Sony console owners are quite used to being able to upgrade or add hard drives themselves.

They HAVE to be- Sony didn't have the forethought to put easy plug and play USB 3 options into their bare bones design.

Sony could enable portable HDD storage tomorrow if they wanted to.  

The K.I.S.S. (keep it simple, stupid) principle applies here, consumers like Sony's "bare bones" approach (just like consumers world wide love simple, basic, reliable Toyota cars).  The sales figures vs XBONE prove it.

(06-15-2015, 08:16 PM)gstanford Wrote: Don't know what you pay for fuel in the USA but here a liter (not a gallon, a liter) of E10 (unleaded plus 10% ethanol) costs $1.33 AU ($1.03 US).

(06-15-2015, 08:16 PM)gstanford Wrote: I don't tow boats or go bush or cart motorcycles around. If I did, I'd grab a Toyota pickup to do that. It wouldn't replace the Yaris for regular everyday driving.

 You say you are nearly 50, well I'm 47 and I see the world the way most young people see it, you are already in your rocking chair in front of a fireplace smoking a pipe remembering how it used to be back in the "good old days".

(06-11-2015, 05:04 PM)gstanford Wrote: You don't take a PS4 apart to replace the hard drive.  You slide off one plastic top cover and remove one screw.  Your granny could do it blindfolded.

You'd better be a damn fast walker if you want to talk with me while I'm travelling up an on ramp in my Yaris.  You don't need ridiculous amounts of horsepower when there is only a lightweight car body to push along.  Have you forgotten your high-school physics (or did you party through that just like you did college first time around)?

(06-12-2015, 06:01 PM)gstanford Wrote: I have a Wii console buried somewhere.

I dispute that my Yaris is a lesser car than an F150.  To me a car is a means of getting from point A to point B first and foremost.  The cheaper it can do this and the more reliably it can do this determines how good it is to me, not how many pointless toys and luxuries and distractions are crammed into its cabin.

My Yaris has all the instrumentation you require to operate it properly it has seating that is comfortable enough and it has a weatherproof cargo storage area.  It is economical to purchase, maintain and run.  And it will be running long after your oversized monstrosity has a date with destiny in a car crusher.

AMD CPU's are poor value for money, unreliable (they 'breakdown' running code that other processors handle just fine), they are expensive to fuel (eat lots of power) and they pollute (produce lots of heat compared to other processors that outperform them).

(06-14-2015, 07:31 PM)gstanford Wrote:

Quote:Do you say you "know" people you've never spoken to?

No, I don't.

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Quote:You are correct that I don't know anyone who drives a subcompact car, because a. the sentence above this one is true b. I'm in my freaking early 50s. In the USA, you don't stuff yourself into a tiny subcompact once you can afford a bigger car.

So you are saying that Toyota, Nissan, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Mazda, Honda, KIA, Hyundia etc should all just close up their USA dealerships and go home because no americans ever purchase their cars and never have?!

You're fucking pathetic!

(06-15-2015, 09:19 AM)gstanford Wrote: Don't worry Rollo is only making himself look childish, not me.

In Australia we are even more dependent on cars than the USA is.  Take a look at a map of australia and the distances between major cities, not to mention the rural properties.

In spite of that small cars are a major success story here.  Australians probably own more cars per household than nearly anywhere else on the planet and keep them longer.

You will find a common theme of the past (getting less common now as small cars simply keep getting better and better and the old-fashioned buyers die out) is one large V6 or V8 vehicle and at least one small vehicle.

Nobody with any brains in their head commutes to and from work in a large vehicle unless that large vehicle is related to their work.  Why burn up your paycheck in fuels costs when you don't have to?!  Of course there are petrol heads, posers and "too-rich-to-care" types like Rollo that do anyway, there will always be exceptions.

Rollo's junk nissan in the video was obviously an abused vehicle (nissan bluebirds are a favorite cheap street racing car amongst petrol heads).  99.9% of vehicles sold to people who use cars responsibly and appropriately don't end up anything like that.

The Australian automotive manufacturing industry is shutting down entirely by 2017, the reason why is because hardly anybody wants to purchase the v6 and V8 large cars that they assemble at Ford and Holden (GM) anymore (Holden Commodore and Ford Falcon).  As for the factories that assemble asian cars locally, it is cheaper nowadays to close the plant down and have the vehicles built in Indonesia then shipped here.

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Quote:Super Moderator Gstan switched it to cars in post #5

The fact that I happen to be a (spam) moderator here is completely and utterly irrelevant to the topic.  I never asked to be a moderator, Dave asked me to be one out of the blue.  I accepted in order to help ABT out.  It just so happens that Super Moderators are the only ones able to purge spammers, regular modship can't do that, and once again, late last week I simply logged into the forums and discovered that Dave had now made me (and SteelCrysis) a Super Moderator.

If you have problems with that, go cry to Dave.

(06-15-2015, 08:16 PM)gstanford Wrote: Yaris safety is absolutely fine except maybe for head on collisions.  Don't have "accidents" and it doesn't even matter.
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Toyota_Yaris/Safety/

I don't tow boats or go bush or cart motorcycles around.  If I did, I'd grab a Toyota pickup to do that.  It wouldn't replace the Yaris for regular everyday driving.

Your son would be able to fit all his sports gear into the Yaris without issue.

We have snowy winters here in Tasmania too - at Cradle Mountain and Mount Wellington primarily.  You could get Yaris to both locations in a snowy  winter with no trouble at all.

Don't know what you pay for fuel in the USA but here a liter (not a gallon, a liter) of E10 (unleaded plus 10% ethanol) costs $1.33 AU ($1.03 US).

As for your friends with the electric car, perhaps they chose a power company that generates power from Hydro or wind, maybe they also have solar panels on their houses.

Like Ocre said, you don't speak for most americans, certainly not the younger ones I would suggest.  You are firmly stuck in the 50's and 60's.  You say you are nearly 50, well I'm 47 and I see the world the way most young people see it, you are already in your rocking chair in front of a fireplace smoking a pipe remembering how it used to be back in the "good old days".

(06-15-2015, 10:22 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: BryanW-

As you apparently work in the auto industry here:

If Yaris's and F150s were free, do you think 99/100 people would be driving F150s, or 100/100? (and remember, GStan lives in Australia so he won't be skewing the data)

I posted a link in another thread that said Ford makes 75% of their income on the F150, and I bet you're right that Yaris's are pocket change to Toyota. F150s are good business, Yaris's would take Toyota to bankruptcy.

(06-15-2015, 11:10 PM)gstanford Wrote:

Quote:Toyota quality is not what it used to be, and Ford's quality is enormously better now.  Plus, Ford makes a disproportionate % of their income off of the F150, whereas Toyota makes Jack Squat on a Yaris.  If I had to gamble on it, I'd predict that an average F150 built and sold today would last longer than an average Yaris.  And I don't work for our Ford or Toyota stores, though I am very good friends with dealers from both.  I just texted one of my Toyota friends with the following query:  What vehicle do you think will last longer for one purchased today: F150 or Yaris?  I can't wait to see reply.

Mine is a 2007 model and still as good as the day I picked it up from the dealership.

My money is on the Yaris outlasting F150.  Toyota builds their vehicles to last basically forever.  The american car-makers build their stuff to fail so you go purchase a new vehicle and keep putting money in their coffers.

Yaris is based off of Echo which was based off of Starlet, still plenty of both of them on the road.

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(06-15-2015, 11:42 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: Gstan, did you note the guy actually in the American auto industry posting:

A. No one with any means buys subcompact cars here
B. Tesla is a total fail, subsidized govt moochers
C. The F150 is a better car than a Yaris

Combined with all the stats I have posted, all I can say to you is "check mate". You've lost the debate.

(06-16-2015, 12:37 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: I live in WI, I think gas was $2.69/gallon last time I filled up.

In the Midwest, we see a lot of F150s/Silverado/Sierra/Ram. Yaris- not so much.

I'd also note that this is where the Big 3 build a lot of cars and are still based, and guys driving Toyota trucks aren't treated with friendly greetings and "Smart move buying a Toyota!".

(06-16-2015, 12:43 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote: I've only been to WI once.  It was early summer about 10 years ago, I went to Milwaukee for a wedding. I think that we stayed at the Iron Horse hotel, the weather was perfect and the trip was awesome.  I'd like to go back one day.

(06-16-2015, 03:40 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:

(06-16-2015, 12:43 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote: I've only been to WI once.  It was early summer about 10 years ago, I went to Milwaukee for a wedding. I think that we stayed at the Iron Horse hotel, the weather was perfect and the trip was awesome.  I'd like to go back one day.

I never go somewhere else and think, "I wish lived here". If you like outdoor recreating we have a ton of it, and as a result, an $18.5b tourism industry. What is excellent about it is we have so many natural resources you can largely evade the tourists and enjoy them, often pretty much by yourself.

I don't have anything against imports, we may end up with a Subaru as our 3rd car when we give our son the Challenger later this year. (up here 4wd is a BIG deal)

Mostly I just disagree with Gstan saying the US market is like the Aussie market (it isn't), a Yaris is equal to a F150 (it's not), and the vehicles we drive belong on railroad tracks (they are more useful than a Yaris).

(06-16-2015, 03:55 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:

(06-16-2015, 03:40 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:

(06-16-2015, 12:43 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote: I've only been to WI once.  It was early summer about 10 years ago, I went to Milwaukee for a wedding. I think that we stayed at the Iron Horse hotel, the weather was perfect and the trip was awesome.  I'd like to go back one day.

I never go somewhere else and think, "I wish lived here". If you like outdoor recreating we have a ton of it, and as a result, an $18.5b tourism industry. What is excellent about it is we have so many natural resources you can largely evade the tourists and enjoy them, often pretty much by yourself.

I don't have anything against imports, we may end up with a Subaru as our 3rd car when we give our son the Challenger later this year. (up here 4wd is a BIG deal)

Mostly I just disagree with Gstan saying the US market is like the Aussie market (it isn't), a Yaris is equal to a F150 (it's not), and the vehicles we drive belong on railroad tracks (they are more useful than a Yaris).

Isn't he in Tasmania?  At a guess I would say that Tasmania isn't perfectly representative of the entire country...and, in fact, could be quite different.

Yaris doesn't look to be in the top 10 in Aus by the way, not sure if it's #11 or # 111 atm though.

(06-16-2015, 09:30 AM)gstanford Wrote: What a load of crap!  Outside of the USA Toyota all but owns the pickup market and American pickups are virtually unheard of.  But then again you are based in good old red-neck, republican heartland Texas, I wouldn't expect you to say anything else, especially about Telsa given that Texas is one of the main states opposing direct sales/propping up dealerships!

(06-16-2015, 09:30 AM)gstanford Wrote: You would enjoy Tasmania if you visited. We have a great wilderness with tons of outdoor recreation opportunities if that is your thing (Tasmania is like a mostly sub-temperate mini Canada).

Quote:What a load of crap!  Outside of the USA Toyota all but owns the pickup market and American pickups are virtually unheard of.  But then again you are based in good old red-neck, republican heartland Texas, I wouldn't expect you to say anything else, especially about Telsa given that Texas is one of the main states opposing direct sales/propping up dealerships!

(06-17-2015, 01:37 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote: Gstanford's insulting portion has been removed from his post.  No further comment required.  Everyone move along.

(06-17-2015, 08:44 AM)gstanford Wrote: SteelCrysis you were made a spam moderator by Dave.  You have no right whatsoever to edit anybody elses post.

In the past Dave has removed moderator rights for those abusing the mod system like this and I will be strongly suggesting to him that that is what should happen with you as a result of tampering with my posts.

(06-17-2015, 01:37 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote: Gstanford's insulting portion has been removed from his post. No further comment required. Everyone move along.

(06-17-2015, 09:01 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:

(06-17-2015, 08:44 AM)gstanford Wrote: SteelCrysis you were made a spam moderator by Dave.  You have no right whatsoever to edit anybody elses post.

In the past Dave has removed moderator rights for those abusing the mod system like this and I will be strongly suggesting to him that that is what should happen with you as a result of tampering with my posts.

It says he's a Super Moderator?

(and technically if what he removed is something like you calling me "f*cking pathetic" it would seem normal moderator type activity)