(01-24-2016, 09:55 PM)SickBeast Wrote: Rollo if just one time we heard you say "sorry about that, you were right", it would change things.  You are wrong about stuff all the time.  Completely wrong.  Yet you always carry yourself on as though you know everything and as though you think you're always right.  So we have a reason for saying this.

(01-24-2016, 11:24 PM)gstanford Wrote: Probably got chewed out by daddy threatening to disinherit you if you didn't make a proper go of studying....  Amazing how many rich brats suddenly stop being brats when daddy puts the cheque book away...

(01-24-2016, 11:41 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:

(01-24-2016, 09:55 PM)SickBeast Wrote: Rollo if just one time we heard you say "sorry about that, you were right", it would change things.  You are wrong about stuff all the time.  Completely wrong.  Yet you always carry yourself on as though you know everything and as though you think you're always right.  So we have a reason for saying this.

Show me where I am wrong and I will.

I not only have no problem being wrong, I want to know when I am so I can be right next time.

(02-09-2016, 07:15 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote: Samsung 4K Blu-ray player has been released at $399: http://4k.com/samsungs-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-goes-on-sale-a-bit-early-release-date-pushed-forward-12255-2/

(02-09-2016, 06:08 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:

(02-09-2016, 07:15 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote: Samsung 4K Blu-ray player has been released at $399: http://4k.com/samsungs-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-goes-on-sale-a-bit-early-release-date-pushed-forward-12255-2/

Sell your 1080p TVs, buy a $400 player and 4K tv, buy or rent some much more costly content, move your couch up close so you can see the difference!

Yep, "3d fad" for 2016.

(02-10-2016, 04:47 PM)BoFox Wrote:

(02-09-2016, 06:08 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:

(02-09-2016, 07:15 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote: Samsung 4K Blu-ray player has been released at $399: http://4k.com/samsungs-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-goes-on-sale-a-bit-early-release-date-pushed-forward-12255-2/

Sell your 1080p TVs, buy a $400 player and 4K tv, buy or rent some much more costly content, move your couch up close so you can see the difference!

Yep, "3d fad" for 2016.

For 2016, maybe, but not for 2020 when OLED is much cheaper (maybe 80" for less than $1500)?  4K bluray players for $100, movies for no more than what ordinary blu-rays go for nowadays.. 

80" means you'd tell a significant difference from over 16 feet away.  If your couch is 20' away, then get a 100" screen, dammit!  Mine is only like 11-13 feet away from a 100" screen, and it's better than any Regal cinemas or IMAX theaters (all of which are too big viewed from the middle for my taste).

Well, I digress..   if 4K content (over cable) remains unavailable or "premium", then 4K stuff would likely continue to command premium prices, even well into year 2020.

4K adoption looks to be at least twice as slow as HD adoption of the 2000's.  

(02-18-2016, 10:13 PM)SteelCrysis Wrote: 4K Blu-ray movies are out right now: http://4k.com/best-buy-now-selling-4k-blu-ray-discs-in-store-a-couple-weeks-ahead-of-schedule-12426-2/

(02-20-2016, 01:57 AM)BoFox Wrote: Nope, 4K Bluray will succeed. 

Regardless, there just needs to be 4K 3D at 120Hz (24fps for movies is still fine, but it's a nice ratio of 1:5 for 120Hz, rather than an assymetric timing ratio of 60Hz).  Perhaps there might be some more serious movies like Avatar 2 filmed at 48Hz, thus wrecking the "ratio" once again, lol?

(02-21-2016, 03:34 AM)SickBeast Wrote: The studios all need to work together to create a 4k movie "Netflix" type of service that's affordable, say $10 a month.  Otherwise they are just going to lose out, similar to what happened to the music industry when they were caught flat footed by technological advances.  No one in their right mind wants to have to deal with physical disks and paying $30 for them is crazy to me.  You can take your whole family to the movie theatre for that price.

(02-22-2016, 05:35 AM)SickBeast Wrote: There is no hope left for physical media.  Actually the rumors are saying that the new Nintendo NX console will not use physical media at all.  In fact I read another rumor that said that the NX will come out this year along with a new Zelda game for both the Wii U and the NX.

(02-23-2016, 06:38 AM)gstanford Wrote: BluRay players still sell extremely well.  I doubt people purchase them to use as artwork.

Sony has done extremely well with physical media and the PS4, so for that matter has GameStop/EB Games.

I laugh when I see people complain about the $20 - $30 digital download premium over a retail disc on forums, then I go out and purchase a pre-owned disc and save at least that $20 - $30 a second time!

People are slowly starting to wake up with digital download that it is expensive (and will get even more expensive as it takes more of the market share, just like cable tv) and you game subject to the whims of the digital account holder.  XBOX can and does render your game collection useless if you get a Live ban (just like steam).

Quote:There’s certainly no denying physical media sales are declining in the U.S. Sales of DVDs and Blu-ray discs fell 12% in 2015 to $6.1 billion, according to the Digital Entertainment Group after an 11% drop in 2014.
Meanwhile, digital revenues rose 18% in 2015.

(02-23-2016, 03:12 PM)gstanford Wrote: I guess Microsoft must have brainwashed themselves about digital games too!

Very interesting article on the subject just popped up (love the timing!)

http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/microsoft-afraid-xbla-destroy-console-industry/

Quote:IGN recently spoke with XBLA creator Greg Canessa about his vision for the service and the success that it has had. He surprisingly reveals that, “There was a legitimate fear that Xbox Live Arcade was going to cannibalize retail sales and completely destroy the console industry. That was actually a quote I got from one of the internal folks.”

The fear stemmed from the cheaper price points and greater convenience of just downloading games rather than actually going to a brick-and-mortar store. Thus, they wanted to make sure that XBLA distinguished itself from all of that by offering different kinds of gaming experiences.

It will be fascinating to see what SickBeast and Rollo have to say about the above....

Quote:The PricewaterhouseCoopers study found the revenue from downloading and streaming is expected to jump 13% to $9.5 billion in 2015 as sales of physical DVDs lower to $7.8 billion. The firm added that streaming will become a $12 billion industry in 2017, rising above the money spent going to movie theaters.

(02-23-2016, 08:40 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:

(02-23-2016, 06:38 AM)gstanford Wrote: BluRay players still sell extremely well.  I doubt people purchase them to use as artwork.

Sony has done extremely well with physical media and the PS4, so for that matter has GameStop/EB Games.

I laugh when I see people complain about the $20 - $30 digital download premium over a retail disc on forums, then I go out and purchase a pre-owned disc and save at least that $20 - $30 a second time!

People are slowly starting to wake up with digital download that it is expensive (and will get even more expensive as it takes more of the market share, just like cable tv) and you game subject to the whims of the digital account holder.  XBOX can and does render your game collection useless if you get a Live ban (just like steam).

http://fortune.com/2016/01/08/blu-ray-struggles-in-the-streaming-age/

Quote:There’s certainly no denying physical media sales are declining in the U.S. Sales of DVDs and Blu-ray discs fell 12% in 2015 to $6.1 billion, according to the Digital Entertainment Group after an 11% drop in 2014.
Meanwhile, digital revenues rose 18% in 2015.

Sure, everyone still "has" a BluRay player, and probably use them every now and again, but losing 23% of their market over the last two years is a death spiral.

Quote:Fast forward to today, and what does Sony have to say? As mentioned by The Verge in coverage of the company's "adjustment" of forecasted income in advance of the formal announcement of Q1 2014 earnings:

The second [impairment] charge is due to what Sony calls "demand for physical media contracting faster than anticipated," especially in Europe. Because of this, Sony says it does not believe the business will generate "sufficient cash flow in the future to recover the carrying amount of long-lived assets." It anticipates an impairment charge on those assets, and a second charge on the overall value of its disc manufacturing business, which will amount to 25 billion yen ($245 million).