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Intel Announces Intent To Betray CPU Progress After 2021 - SteelCrysis - 02-09-2016
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/222590-an-end-to-scaling-intels-next-generation-chips-will-sacrifice-speed-to-reduce-power
Unbelievable. They intend to betray the end users and progress itself, in the name of reduced power consumption, just because that's trendy. They just gave AMD a golden opportunity to catch up after 2021.
RE: Intel Announces Intent To Betray CPU Progress After 2021 - BoFox - 02-09-2016
Agreed - it's kind of a moot point when certain things will always need power - especially the GPU, well after 2021 if we want decent graphics on our tablets and laptops capable of running the latest games with modern visuals (by then, most tablets and laptops will sport a native 4K or 5K resolution). Does that mean Intel graphics (including HD Iris Pro) will always suck when it comes to decent gaming on par with the consoles (that is, if not all companies decide to dumb down their consoles like Nintendo did with their Wii).
I've been feeling like Intel will just become a fabbing company someday (like GloFo or TSMC).
RE: Intel Announces Intent To Betray CPU Progress After 2021 - BenSkywalker - 02-09-2016
This is actually about how they can maximize performance. Right now an i7 is peaking at ~380GFLOPs- the systems they are talking about start at 1,000,000GFLOPs. We aren't touching exascale using a monolithic CPU design in the next decade, not going to happen. How do you fit the highest amount of computing power in the smallest possible space. Smaller more power efficient cores with extremely fast interconnects will get us there much easier than the monolithic approach we are using now.
Said another way- what if your i7 came to you as four separate chips each that could be cooled using a small heat sink without a fan? What kind of form factor PC could you build? Adding to that, how many of those core chips could you fit in one motherboard? Total computing power goes *WAY* up versus what is possible using a monolithic approach(in no way am I saying that is Intel's plan, just a way to think of it).
It is simply coming back full circle, multi socket machines used to be how we did all the heavy lifting. They aren't saying their next gen parts are going to be slower than current ones, they are saying that they are going to move to a different trajectory to maintain forward momentum instead of waiting until they smash into the wall.
Quote:They just gave AMD a golden opportunity to catch up after 2021.
AMD is not a player in the CPU space- Intel is flirting with falling to fourth place behind Qualcomm, Apple and Samsung when looking at volume. Yes, Intel still has much higher revenue, ARM is doing the same thing to Intel that Intel did to the old 'big iron' CPU manufacturers. Obviously, Intel isn't going to let that happen without a fight.
RE: Intel Announces Intent To Betray CPU Progress After 2021 - BoFox - 02-10-2016
Hm, that makes sense, with so many more low-power applications for the CPU than a "monolithic" one that we want in our desktops. Volume is the way to go, with Intel thinking that they will always be able to charge such a premium on anything with the Intel brand on it... until ARM completely takes over the world.
Supercomputers, datacenters, and the rest could all benefit hugely from this drastic reduction in heat output, massive power optimization while each 8-core CPU chugs along at sub-2GHz Jaguar-like clocks like the low-end smartphone chips, consuming 1W each. Intel R9 Core Nano for $699, 10x more efficient than a Maxwell GTX 750! A revolution coming up?? The PS4 and XBone revolution of low-power sloth CPUs at hardly more than half the clock speed of the previous-gen consoles!
Quote:If traditional CPU designs can’t provide additional clock speeds and next-generation technologies are aimed at lower-power computing as opposed to higher performance, than either we’re headed for a revolution in distributed computing (unlikely), or a very, very slow performance ramp.
That was the article's bottom line.. distributed computing could very well be a revolution nonetheless. That is, when gobs and gobs of bandwidth finally becomes cheap and fast and ubiquitous.