(02-23-2016, 06:40 PM)BoFox Wrote: What scientists fail to realize is that it's all relative.  If there's more water, the sea does not rise - it simply pushes down onto the crust with greater pressure, thus causing the land to pop up more.  Volcanoes will erupt, and rise out of nowhere.

(02-23-2016, 06:40 PM)BoFox Wrote: What scientists fail to realize is that it's all relative.  If there's more water, the sea does not rise - it simply pushes down onto the crust with greater pressure, thus causing the land to pop up more.  Volcanoes will erupt, and rise out of nowhere.

(02-23-2016, 07:14 PM)BoFox Wrote: Magma is my source.  Oooooh....., magma!!!



(Dr. Evil "Liquid hot magma")

Quote:One of the possible impacts of global warming-triggered rebound may be more volcanic activity in previously ice-capped areas such as Iceland and Greenland.[23] It may also trigger intraplate earthquakes near the ice margins of Greenland and Antarctica.

Quote:During deglaciation, the melted ice water returns to the oceans, thus the sea level increases [/url]again. However, geological records of sea level changes show that the redistribution of the melted ice water is not the same everywhere in the oceans. In other words, depending upon the location, the rise in sea level at a certain site may be more than that at another site. This is due to the gravitational attraction between the mass of the melted water and the other masses, such as remaining ice sheets, glaciers, water masses and mantle rocks[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound#cite_note-peltier-1998-5][5] and the changes in centrifugal potential due to Earth's variable rotation.

Quote:may extend seawards for hundreds of kilometres onto the abyssal plain

(02-24-2016, 07:03 AM)gstanford Wrote: Damn!  I knew US politicians were dumb, I didn't think they were this dumb though!  I'd say LOL!, but honestly this level of stupidity just makes you despair for humanity.

(02-24-2016, 06:41 AM)gstanford Wrote: Water moves freely, ice doesn't!  Go research Antarctic ice cover and crust depression!  The oceans do sweet fuck all compression by comparison!

Quote:Glaciers erode predominantly by three different processes: abrasion/scouring, plucking, and ice thrusting. In an abrasion process, debris in the basal ice scrapes along the bed, polishing and gouging the underlying rocks, similar to sandpaper on wood. Glaciers can also cause pieces of bedrock to crack off in the process of plucking. In ice thrusting, the glacier freezes to its bed, then as it surges forward, it moves large sheets of frozen sediment at the base along with the glacier. This method produced some of the many thousands of lake basins that dot the edge of the Canadian Shield. The erosion caused by glaciers worldwide erodes mountains so effectively that the term glacial buzz-saw has become widely used, which describes the limiting effect of glaciers on the height of mountain ranges.[21] As mountains grow higher, they generally allow for more glacial activity (especially in the accumulation zone above the glacial equilibrium line altitude),[22] which causes increased rates of erosion of the mountain, decreasing mass faster than isostatic rebound can add to the mountain.

Quote:So the data in this study indicate that the overall time needed for continents to erode lies between three and 50 million years, a range that includes the 2007 estimate by ICR President John Morris of 14 million years.3
In order to maintain their belief in long ages, some might suggest that landforms were repeatedly uplifted by tectonic forces, providing more land mass for weather to erode. However, Loma Linda University geologist Ariel Roth noted that this scenario would have obliterated the very rock layers that supposedly represent evolution's millions of years! He wrote:

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Quote:It has been suggested that mountains still exist because they are constantly being renewed by uplift from below. However, this process of uplift could not go through even one complete cycle of erosion and uplift without eradicating the layers of the geologic column found in them. Present erosion rates would tend to rapidly eradicate evidence of older sediments; yet these sediments are still very well-represented, both in mountains and elsewhere.2

Quote:Figure 49: Buckled Mountain. Textbooks and museums frequently refer to some uplifting force that formed mountains. Can you see that an uplifting force, by itself, would not produce this pattern? Horizontal compression was needed to buckle these sedimentary layers near the Sullivan River in southern British Columbia, Canada. Such layers—seen worldwide—must have been soft, like wet sand, at the time of compression.  Today, surface rocks are brittle.

Quote:Figure 50: Continental Fit Proposed by Edward Bullard. Can you identify five distortions in this popular explanation of how the continents once fit together?  First, Africa was shrunk in area by 35%. Second, Central America, southern Mexico, and the Caribbean Islands were removed.  Third, Australia is ignored, because it’s fit anywhere is problematic—and where is Asia? Fourth, a slice was made through the Mediterranean, and Europe was rotated counterclockwise and Africa was rotated clockwise.  Finally, North and South America were rotated relative to each other. Notice the rotation of the north-south and east-west lines.  Overlapping areas are shown in black.  Scientific justifications are not given for any of these five distortions.

Quote: Instead of fitting the continents to each other, notice above how well they each fit the base of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.  The hydroplate theory proposes that:

a. These continents were once in the approximate positions shown above.

b. They were connected by rock that was rapidly eroded and transported worldwide by erupting subterranean water.

c. As these eroded sediments were deposited, they trapped and buried plants and animals. The sediments became today’s sedimentary rock, and buried organisms became fossils.

d. The continents quickly slid on a layer of water (rapid continental drift) away from the rising Mid-Atlantic Ridge and toward the subsiding Pacific floor. They came to rest near their present locations.

Quote:Thick, tightly bent strata without sign of melting or fracturing. E.g. the Kaibab upwarp in Grand Canyon indicates rapid folding before the sediments had time to solidify (the sand grains were not elongated under stress as would be expected if the rock had hardened). This wipes out hundreds of millions of years of time and is consistent with extremely rapid formation during the biblical Flood. See Warped earth (written by a geophysicist).

(02-26-2016, 01:55 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote: BoFox, the biblical chronology may be longer than you think: http://www.biblicalchronologist.org/answers/millennium.php

Quote:Notice that 3290 B.C. is the most likely year of tightest clustering of only their perihelions. These comets would have been nearest Earth’s orbit a few months before or after those perihelion passes—as they approached perihelion or after they left perihelion. Those errors amount to only a few months—an insignificant error in comparison with the ± 100 year uncertainty. Therefore, the most clocklike comets were clustered near Earth in 3290 ± 100 B.C.

(02-26-2016, 04:51 AM)gstanford Wrote: BoFox doesn't think, that is the entire problem!  He just mindlessly spouts religious creationist propaganda and is under the delusion that that constitutes thinking!

(02-26-2016, 12:52 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: I believe Stephen Hawking over a book written by cavemen 2000 years ago.

There may well be a god (one of the possible answers) but to say an omnipotent being that exists outside of time would be jealous, wrathful, vengeful, etc (like us) is ridiculous and the epoch of narcissism.

It's also a bit less than likely such a being would create a sentient race, put a condition of worship for eternal reward on them, knowing most would fail and be tortured for eternity.

You think the police are bad? How about the guy that tortures a peaceful Buddhist who spends his life working to help the poor, but doesn't convert?

Your "science" doesn't add up, and is an insult to what God would likely be.

(02-26-2016, 10:56 AM)BoFox Wrote:

(02-26-2016, 12:52 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: I believe Stephen Hawking over a book written by cavemen 2000 years ago.

There may well be a god (one of the possible answers) but to say an omnipotent being that exists outside of time would be jealous, wrathful, vengeful, etc (like us) is ridiculous and the epoch of narcissism.

It's also a bit less than likely such a being would create a sentient race, put a condition of worship for eternal reward on them, knowing most would fail and be tortured for eternity.

You think the police are bad? How about the guy that tortures a peaceful Buddhist who spends his life working to help the poor, but doesn't convert?

Your "science" doesn't add up, and is an insult to what God would likely be.

Whatever suits you, pal.  These are your own points of contention - I might not agree with some of them like having the Buddhist burn in hell forever because of not converting.  It's just a harsh standpoint from a translation taken out of context - the Buddhist might not truly know better, after all.  Also stated is (in general) "But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows." 

Just like you have hatred towards those who leech off the society - even if they were your own children, right?  If such wrath is really that bad, perhaps you'd be keeping your distance away from them out of sheer intolerance, or even one-off yourself because you think that wrath itself is so evil, and you cannot stand having such wrath?  Just kidding.

(02-26-2016, 06:01 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: thinking we're "god lite" is the height of arrogance and folly.

(02-26-2016, 09:36 PM)BoFox Wrote:

(02-26-2016, 06:01 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: thinking we're "god lite" is the height of arrogance and folly.

Pun intended, bingo!  

Many disagree with how religion should be, or even religion altogether after being unable to trust God.  The slogan printed on all of US currency, "In God We Trust" no longer stands among the consensus - perhaps an alarming majority nowadays.  It used to be tolerance of dissent in the public as to questioning God's existence.  Now, it's a question of tolerating dissent in the public as to disagreeing with atheism. 

If you were instructed by your company boss to do certain errands, and you refused because you thought that the boss wouldn't notice if he never checked on you - choosing to do your own thing instead, what do you think the boss would do when he found out?  Fire you?

Life is increasingly brief as we get older.  We know that if we do bad things, there tends to be more "hell" than not.  Like, if you kill one guy every month in your town, do you think you could truly live a hell-free life?  Hitler thought he could do whatever in his own territory, but nope.  

Once again, whatever suits you, pal.

(02-28-2016, 12:13 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote: Yes you are, because Kia Soul has the hamster commercials.

(02-28-2016, 08:08 AM)gstanford Wrote: I have a little quote I like that sums up religion and why it persists quite nicely:

Quote:Religion is a crutch for the weak & ignorant, and a handy tool for the manipulative. Or, in the words of Roman philosopher Seneca the Younger: "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful."

(02-28-2016, 08:08 AM)gstanford Wrote: I have a little quote I like that sums up religion and why it persists quite nicely:

Quote:Religion is a crutch for the weak & ignorant, and a handy tool for the manipulative. Or, in the words of Roman philosopher Seneca the Younger: "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful."

(02-27-2016, 08:11 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:

(02-26-2016, 09:36 PM)BoFox Wrote:

(02-26-2016, 06:01 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: thinking we're "god lite" is the height of arrogance and folly.

Pun intended, bingo!  

Many disagree with how religion should be, or even religion altogether after being unable to trust God.  The slogan printed on all of US currency, "In God We Trust" no longer stands among the consensus - perhaps an alarming majority nowadays.  It used to be tolerance of dissent in the public as to questioning God's existence.  Now, it's a question of tolerating dissent in the public as to disagreeing with atheism. 

If you were instructed by your company boss to do certain errands, and you refused because you thought that the boss wouldn't notice if he never checked on you - choosing to do your own thing instead, what do you think the boss would do when he found out?  Fire you?

Life is increasingly brief as we get older.  We know that if we do bad things, there tends to be more "hell" than not.  Like, if you kill one guy every month in your town, do you think you could truly live a hell-free life?  Hitler thought he could do whatever in his own territory, but nope.  

Once again, whatever suits you, pal.

You talk a lot about killing people, rape, and genocide for a "Christian".

Just kidding.

You're missing my point about anthropomorphizing "god". I'm saying it's derogatory to "god" and what god would be like. (logically)

Your "running errands for the boss" is a perfect example of the phenomenon. People in ancient times that wrote the Bible spoke in terms the simple folk of the time could understand. "God is the father, we are his children, we must obey or be punished."

Compared to a being that exists outside of time, can create matter, create life, is omniscient the analogy of men and ants is probably closer to it. Ants aren't much like us and we wouldn't be much (if at all) like god.

If god possesses all of the qualities commonly ascribed, "jealousy" for sure is not among his character traits. What are you jealous of if you're the being to which none greater can be conceived/omnipotent/omniscient? Some fry cook worshipping Gonesh the elephant god over in India? LOL- yeah sure. "I control the very fabric of reality, but this darn fry cook worships that elephant god guy I burped out on Taco Tuesday! I will torture that fry cook for eternity! That will fix him and be an example to the rest!"

God would not have human traits and to say he does insults God.