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HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 03-10-2018 https://www.techpowerup.com/242216/nvidias-new-gpp-program-reportedly-engages-in-monopolistic-practices Quote:The crux of the issue seems to be in that NVIDIA, while publicly touting transparency, is hiding some not so transparent clauses from the public's view. Namely, the fact that in order to become a part of NVIDIA's GPP program, partners must have its "Gaming Brand Aligned Exclusively With GeForce." Bennet says that he has read NVIDIA papers, and these very words, in internal documents meant for NVIDIA's partners only; however, none of these have been made available as of time of writing, though that may be an effort to protect sources. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 03-14-2018 Elric is taking advantage of this news to briefly talk about how AMD has tried to manipulate his reviews, all the way down to controlling the video titles: RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 03-27-2018 https://www.techpowerup.com/242697/drunk-on-geforce-partner-program-koolaid-msi-openly-slanders-amd-radeon Quote:MSI was caught openly slandering AMD Radeon graphics processors in promoting its MSI Gaming Series notebooks featuring NVIDIA GeForce graphics chips. The company is a signatory of the draconian GeForce Partner Program (GPP) by NVIDIA which, in boilerplate regulator-baiting language, tells its add-in card (AIC) partners not to use the same gaming sub-brand (eg: ASUS ROG, MSI Gaming, GIGABYTE Aorus, etc.,) for GPUs from any other brand (i.e. AMD Radeon). When it's in effect, ASUS, for example, can't sell an ROG Strix-branded Radeon graphics card, MSI can't sell an RX Vega 64 Gaming X, and it's probably why GIGABYTE stripped the RX 580 Gaming Box of Aorus branding. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-07-2018 ASUS responds to GPP by making new brand for AMD graphics cards: https://www.techpowerup.com/243088/in-aftermath-of-nvidia-gpp-asus-creates-arez-brand-for-radeon-graphics-cards RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SickBeast - 04-09-2018 I don't hear the board partners crying about this, only AMD. It appears Kyle at HardOCP has become their puppet. It's sad to watch. I've been reading HardOCP for a long time. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-14-2018 Dell and HP are refusing to get involved with GPP: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/04/12/dell_hp_resist_nvidia_gpp_leash_so_far RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-17-2018 https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-partner-program-ftc/ I got this link from Elric's video. But it's looking doubtful. The only sources are claims on Reddit, which are being reported by WCCFTech. To be fair, Elric says it's just a rumor. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-18-2018 ASUS officially announces its AREZ brand: https://www.techpowerup.com/243437/asus-announces-the-amd-exclusive-arez-brand-for-radeon-graphics-cards RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-18-2018 And AMD makes its own protest against GPP: RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-18-2018 Here's AMD's blog post: https://www.techpowerup.com/243441/amd-responds-to-nvidias-gpp-aib-partners-to-announce-new-radeon-exclusive-brands RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-18-2018 https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/267738-amd-radeon-rx-vega-nvidia-geforce-partner-program Quote:HardOCP openly admits that AMD brought them this story in the first place, but just because a company alerts you to a story doesn’t mean the story isn’t true. A month ago, HardOCP alleged that Nvidia had kicked off a marketing campaign that required AIB’s to push AMD GPUs out of their premium brands in order to receive various benefits, including marketing dollars and GPU allocation. Today, we see evidence that more than one company has either launched a new AMD-specific brand (Asus), removed AMD from its top-brand gaming products (Asus, MSI), or is choosing to sell an identical product without its top-end branding, where the only difference is the presence of an AMD GPU as opposed to an Nvidia card (Gigabyte). RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-24-2018 Elric does a follow-up to the video where he mentioned how controlling AMD is: RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-24-2018 https://gaming.radeon.com/en/radeon-a-gamers-choice/ I was tipped off to this by GamersNexus. He points out AMD's hypocrisy in attacking Nvidia over "gamer taxes" when they did something that was somewhat similar with the release of Vega. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 04-29-2018 GamersNexus comments on AMD as well:
RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 05-05-2018 Nvidia ends GPP: https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/268873-nvidia-has-canceled-the-geforce-partner-program Quote:Nvidia is no particular stranger to controversy, nor one to back away from a fight. Its GameWorks program, for example, has been controversial since its inception. Nvidia didn’t back away from it. Patrick Moorehead, writing for Forbes, makes the point that he thinks NV killed the program for the right reason, because the negativity around the program constituted a distraction. He states, however, that he had absolutely no reason to believe that Nvidia had engaged in any kind of illegal activity. This may be true. But it doesn’t explain the difference between Nvidia’s typically pugnacious attitude and willingness to engage in behaviors the community finds controversial (GameWorks) and its willingness to cancel the GPP after a much smaller period of time. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 05-05-2018 https://www.techpowerup.com/243921/nvidia-ends-controversial-geforce-partner-program-gpp Quote:Apparently the blow-back was harder than expected, and NVIDIA buckled. The main forces behind NVIDIA withdrawing GPP may not be fear of government regulators, but OEMs, such as Dell and HP, refusing to sign up. AMD is known in the OEM circles for great pricing, which is what scores it design wins with giants such as Apple. That's something big OEMs would never want to let go of. Had Dell, for example, signed up for GPP, it would have meant the end of AMD Radeon GPUs in Alienware desktops. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - dmcowen674 - 05-05-2018 This article sums it up pretty well: Nvidia pulls plug on 2 month old program Nvidia announced it is "pulling the plug" on the GeForce Partner Program (GPP) due to the company's unwillingness to combat "rumors" and "mistruths" about the platform. The GPP has only been active for a couple of months. Shortly after the launch, unnamed sources from add-in card and desktop/laptop manufacturers came forward to reveal that the program will likely hurt consumer choice. Even more, they worried that some of the agreement language may actually be illegal while the program itself could disrupt the current business they have with AMD and Intel. They also revealed one major requirement: The resulting product sports the label "[gaming brand] Aligned Exclusively with GeForce." As an example, if Asus wanted to add its Republic of Gamers (RoG) line to Nvidia's program, it wouldn't be allowed to sell RoG products with AMD-based graphics. Of course, manufacturers can choose whether or not to join Nvidia's program, but membership supposedly had its "perks" including access to early technology, sales rebate programs, game bundling, and more. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 05-12-2018 https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/269135-nvidia-profits-skyrocket-to-record-highs Quote:This isn’t a very good explanation. Gamers are not confused by whether a box has an AMD or Nvidia GPU, because brands take pains to label products in a way that makes this information accessible. But Jen-Hsun’s statement can be read to imply that the program was canceled because of OEM pushback or user feedback. If I had to guess, I’d bet on the former. Nvidia has weathered storms of criticism before, on topics ranging from PhysX to GameWorks to DirectX 12. The company takes these sorts of challenges in stride. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SickBeast - 05-14-2018 I'm not sure nVidia will ever forgive Kyle for the current fiasco. Kyle has repeatedly done everything AMD has asked him lately. Here is a list: - the Vega demo where he did a side-by-side comparison with an nVidia card using an undemanding game that would not show the differences - the Freesync vs Gsync side-by-side demo where he used a game and resolution that would drastically favor AMD - the whole GPP thing There are probably other things also that I'm forgetting about or that I missed. I would be shocked if nVidia ever let Kyle live this down. And I predict that the future of what we are going to see HardOCP become is going to look very sad. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 05-18-2018 GN thinks GPP is going to be forgotten about, considering that's what happened to the 970 VRAM debacle. He's also not worried about negative impact from GN covering GPP, since he's got plenty of revenue streams that won't be affected. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SickBeast - 05-20-2018 Lots of bridges were burned by the GPP fiasco. That could be the real lasting damage for nVidia. They have pissed off large swaths of the press. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SteelCrysis - 05-22-2018 ASUS cancels its AREZ brand: https://www.techpowerup.com/244399/where-arez-thou-gpp-asus-180s-announces-rog-branding-is-here-to-stay Quote:This message slipped the radar until now since, well - AREZ really only had some 129 followers at the time of the tweet. Which just really goes to show how NVIDIA's ploy might have worked in muscling out market recognition of some of its competition's products. RE: HardOCP Reports On Nvidia GPP Bad Behavior - SickBeast - 05-22-2018 GPP is dead. |