(07-24-2015, 09:15 PM)SteelCrysis Wrote: http://www.techpowerup.com/214569/skylake-igpu-gets-performance-leap-incremental-upgrade-for-cpu-performance.html
Looks like another 10% CPU increase, and the majority of improvement is going into the iGPU.

(07-27-2015, 11:17 AM)BoFox Wrote: Whoa, a laptop with 16GB?  That must've costed a lot back then.  Why 16GB for a Sandy Bridge i3 laptop??

Oops, sorry forgot you on vacation now!  

Don't forget to try the muffalettas in New Orleans.  Ask a local eating out at a unique restaurant there about where the best muffaletta would be at.  Crawfish boil is crazy good as well.  There's Emeril's restaurant that serves kick ass crawfish/prawn/shrimp dishes.  Bet you never tried Okra before?  Grits?  Grits-a-yaya?  I'd kill for crawfish scampi!

Edit - I have Tegra Note 7, Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 with 4G, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1" with 4G, Galaxy S3, the original S, three ZTE Awe's (3G, unlimited for only $25/mo with a grandfathered plan under Virgin Mobile (using Sprint coverage, and 3G is still plenty for a 4" smartphone that only uses 800x480 resolution which is still decent), a couple Kyocera Hydro Vibe (waterproof 4G 4.5" phones), etc..  trying to remember all of them, lol.  Kids use them on and off, sometimes they're just paperweight.  Argh.  I'm going to ditch my old Galaxy S3 as the main phone (still awesome for taking pictures) and upgrade to Galaxy Note 3/4 soon, for cheap (hate to spend too much on phones, and refuse any contract plans because if there's a MASSIVELY better phone coming out 6 months later, I want to be able to move on).

Talk to ya more when you get back.  Enjoy as much as possible and treat it like a honeymoon, lol!

(08-06-2015, 01:20 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote: Yeah, but the Skylake iGPU still roughly equals or beats the APUs.  So it's still a win for Intel iGPUs, and the death of the APUs.

(08-04-2015, 05:54 AM)SickBeast Wrote:

(07-27-2015, 11:17 AM)BoFox Wrote: Whoa, a laptop with 16GB?  That must've costed a lot back then.  Why 16GB for a Sandy Bridge i3 laptop??

Oops, sorry forgot you on vacation now!  

Don't forget to try the muffalettas in New Orleans.  Ask a local eating out at a unique restaurant there about where the best muffaletta would be at.  Crawfish boil is crazy good as well.  There's Emeril's restaurant that serves kick ass crawfish/prawn/shrimp dishes.  Bet you never tried Okra before?  Grits?  Grits-a-yaya?  I'd kill for crawfish scampi!

Edit - I have Tegra Note 7, Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 with 4G, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1" with 4G, Galaxy S3, the original S, three ZTE Awe's (3G, unlimited for only $25/mo with a grandfathered plan under Virgin Mobile (using Sprint coverage, and 3G is still plenty for a 4" smartphone that only uses 800x480 resolution which is still decent), a couple Kyocera Hydro Vibe (waterproof 4G 4.5" phones), etc..  trying to remember all of them, lol.  Kids use them on and off, sometimes they're just paperweight.  Argh.  I'm going to ditch my old Galaxy S3 as the main phone (still awesome for taking pictures) and upgrade to Galaxy Note 3/4 soon, for cheap (hate to spend too much on phones, and refuse any contract plans because if there's a MASSIVELY better phone coming out 6 months later, I want to be able to move on).

Talk to ya more when you get back.  Enjoy as much as possible and treat it like a honeymoon, lol!

I bought the 16gb of ram for something silly like $40 when the price of ram plummeted several years ago.  It only came with 6gb initially.  I like 16gb of ram, I find that it makes the computer more responsive and it makes my SSDs last a lot longer.

I didn't eat much in New Orleans.  We wound up at a local grocery store called Rouses IIRC.  We were only there for one night; they say you should always stay in a hotel the night before your cruise because your flight can get delayed (which ours did!).

We had a really nice trip.  New Orleans is a beautful city with a rich culture and very friendly people.  I was very impressed.  It was HOT there though, I have never seen heat like that, it was insane, 44C with the humidex.  The only place hotter on our trip was Belize.

We also stopped at Roatan which is a small island in Honduras and we went to Cozumel Mexico.  The beaches were very nice but the beaches in Cuba are far and away much nicer.  Now that the embargo has been partially lifted I encourage all of you to visit Cuba, it's really an amazing trip!

We're all home safely now but our cat is quite sick, I'm hoping we don't have to put her down.  She is over 20 years old.

Quote:Discrete graphics card performance decreases on Skylake over Haswell.

Quote:Well, This is Disappointing

The rumor mill has been working overtime on stories about Skylake’s performance. PCOnline showed over a 20% performance increase in Photoshop for example, yet we found the Core i7-6700K to be 5% slower. Other reports claimed up to 40% better integrated graphics performance over Broadwell and that certainly wasn't anything close to reality, at least when comparing the 6700K to the 5775C.

These claims could have been made regarding the mobile Skylake CPUs, so we will have to wait and see how that shakes out.

After our results indicated that the 6700K was no faster than the 4790K, we retested with the expectation of finding at least a 10% increase. However, it became clear that there was no extra performance and Intel’s own PR material only claimed "up to" a 10% increase, which means you can expect just a few percent for the most part.

Intel says you can look forward to as much as 10% more performance from the 6700K when testing with SPEC CPU2006. Unfortunately, we were unable to obtain a copy of this benchmark in time for the Skylake launch, but we did test with a wide range of applications and failed to find anywhere near a 10% gain.

The only results Intel provided that could be compared to our own were recorded using Cinebench R15 where Intel's in-house testing matched our own.

Since I can't confirm our numbers with Intel or get answers to any of the dozen questions I have regarding Skylake's performance and features, we just have to hope everything is in order.

For now it looks like the Core i7-6700K is at best able to match the 4790K. I can't put into words how surprisingly and ultimately disappointing that is.

Where Skylake does offer a few advantages over Haswell is in the new platform, more precisely the Z170 chipset which is superior to the Z97 chipset in several ways. The Z170 enjoys 40% more high speed I/O lanes (USB 3.0 and PCIe 3.0) over the Z97 chipset, while PCIe 3.0 storage support with Intel RST has also been added.

The key advantage of the Core i7-6700K over the 4790K is its improved efficiency and superior overclocking capabilities. Not only is the 6700K more flexible when it comes to overclocking but we found the results to be much more promising as well. Our sample had no trouble running at 4.8GHz on air which is 300MHz higher than our 4790K. We hope this is the norm.

Those coming from much older platforms will see some value in Skylake, at least the platform brings some new features and improved efficiency. Those already running Haswell gear will want to pass and the same can likely be said about Ivy Bridge users.

Those with a Sandy Bridge processor might be tempted, though we suspect 2500K owners will hold out for a more substantial upgrade. Just last week we revisited older Intel CPUs and found that some four-year-old Sandy Bridge models still had plenty of life left in them, not including their overclocking potential.

(08-06-2015, 05:57 PM)SickBeast Wrote: Broadwell is even more of a turkey.  It can't overclock worth beans.  There are only a few outside cases where it's better even at such a low clockspeed.

(08-08-2015, 11:48 PM)SickBeast Wrote: Intel needs to make an enthusiast mainstream i7 CPU with no iGPU and 6 or 8 cores for under $300.

Quote:Despite fairly incremental jumps in voltage to hit 4.6GHz, even 1.45V wasn’t enough to get 4.7GHz stable, and I wasn’t willing to risk the chip to go past that even though it seemed to have the thermal headroom. Incidentally, these results map fairly well against the good Dr. Ian Cutress’s experience over at AnandTech. When looking at his results, though, it seems like Intel may be setting unnecessarily high VIDs on the i7-6700K, as he was able to solidly undervolt his chips and still overclock, while my own overclocks didn’t require much massaging of the VCore until ~4.5GHz.

Quote:The platform changes as well. The voltage regulators inside Haswell CPUs move back out on to the motherboard as they generated too much heat inside the CPU. This is good for overclockers, but means the required components on Z170 motherboards, and price, has the potential to go up.

(08-28-2015, 05:39 AM)ocre Wrote: This is depressing..

So so depressing

Quote:First, while Skylake’s instructions-per-clock gains are a little underwhelming, its memory controller is something else entirely. We’ll need to see how it handles DDR3L – and we’ll be testing that in greater detail soon enough – but it has none of the scaling hiccups any of its predecessors have. Skylake’s memory controller is incredibly robust, and Skylake seems to overall be more efficient with memory in general.

Second, DDR4 just doesn’t have the latency issues the transition from DDR2 to DDR3 did. In fact, it’s only when you’re making the C16 to C18 jump that overall latency starts to creep up, but that’s solved almost immediately by just going to the next speed grade.

Ultimately, DDR4 draws less power, runs cooler, and delivers more bandwidth-per-clock than the venerable DDR3, and it has the scaling headroom that DDR3 lacked in both capacity and raw bandwidth. In other words, it’s a worthy successor.