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South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - dmcowen674 - 10-28-2015
10-27-2015
South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class
Sadly not surprisingly anymore there are nuts here in the U.S. that approve of this Officers behavior.
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/benfieldsspringvalleyhighschoolsouthcarolina.gif?w=780
Spring Valley High School officer suspended after violent classroom arrest
A student slammed to the ground by a South Carolina school resource officer "bears some responsibility," Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said Tuesday.
The student's violent arrest was captured in videos that went viral and sparked widespread outrage.
The videos show the officer standing over a student, seated at her desk. He puts his arm near her neck, then yanks her backward. The desk tips over and the student crashes onto the floor.
The uniformed officer doesn't let go, sharply tugging the student toward the front of the classroom. She flies out of her desk and slides several feet across the floor.
The student faces a charge of disturbing schools, according to Wilson. Another female student, Niya Kenny, faces the same charge after allegedly standing up for the other teenager
[url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-video/index.html][/url]
According to the incident report, the second student yelled and cursed at the officer.
The teenage student pulled from the desk said she had a fractured arm and cuts on her face.
The student's attorney also said his client had suffered injuries. Her arm requires her to wear a cast, said Todd Rutherford. She suffered a bruise on her head, he said.
The officer was within his rights
If an officer decides to make an arrest, Houck said, he or she "can use whatever force is necessary."
"So if you don't comply with my wishes ... then I can do whatever it takes to get you out of that seat and put handcuffs on you," said Houck, a former New York police detective.
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - dmcowen674 - 10-28-2015
She didn't pose a threat to anyone's life so I do not agree with the "Use of any force necessary bullshit the Law Enforcement people are saying. That's Fascist.
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - RolloTheGreat - 10-28-2015
(10-28-2015, 03:49 PM)dmcowen674 Wrote: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class
Sadly not surprisingly anymore there are nuts here in the U.S. that approve of this Officers behavior.
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/benfieldsspringvalleyhighschoolsouthcarolina.gif?w=780
I don't know what to think about this one.
On one hand, I don't think cops should put their hands on kids who aren't committing crimes.
On the other, if you have a kid being disruptive in class that won't leave, how are they supposed to get them to go? If they leave it at the kid's option whether to leave or stay there is no chance for the kids there to actually learn to do so.
How do you think it should be handled Dave? Do you have kids in school?
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - dmcowen674 - 10-28-2015
(10-28-2015, 04:17 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: I don't know what to think about this one.
On one hand, I don't think cops should put their hands on kids who aren't committing crimes.
On the other, if you have a kid being disruptive in class that won't leave, how are they supposed to get them to go? If they leave it at the kid's option whether to leave or stay there is no chance for the kids there to actually learn to do so.
How do you think it should be handled Dave? Do you have kids in school?
I don't have kids in school but I have taught in a classroom.
The class is done, they get dismissed to a Hall Study room.
The girls parents get called and notified she is suspended pending possible expulsion.
If she is that "disruptive" she will have to be home schooled.
She wasn't a threat to anyone so that is how you handle it. Certainly not what took place and like I said anyone that supports that is off their rocker and needs to be beaten like the Officer did to her.
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - RolloTheGreat - 10-28-2015
(10-28-2015, 05:27 PM)dmcowen674 Wrote: I don't have kids in school but I have taught in a classroom.
The class is done, they get dismissed to a Hall Study room.
The girls parents get called and notified she is suspended pending possible expulsion.
If she is that "disruptive" she will have to be home schooled.
She wasn't a threat to anyone so that is how you handle it. Certainly not what took place and like I said anyone that supports that is off their rocker and needs to be beaten like the Officer did to her.
I'd call what happened to her "being roughly removed" more than I would beaten. (and the tv news this morning said she was not injured)
Nonetheless, I didn't know about the procedures you outline above and think that is the better way to handle the situation. (and a good way in general)
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - dmcowen674 - 10-28-2015
She was taken to ER and then a Doctor.
10-28-2015
SC Student 'Brutalized' by School Resource Officer, Lawyer Says
"She is hurt and literally, this is someone who is physically in pain because of what she endured, as she literally flew across the classroom," attorney Todd Rutherford said.
He said the girl's arm is in a cast, she has a rug burn on her forehead and has pain in her neck and back. She was hospitalized Monday night and saw a doctor today, he said.
Rutherford criticized the sheriff's response to the incident and the videos.
"They simply stood behind their officer. They are going to wait 48 to 72 hours to determine whether he did anything wrong, when the rest of the world can determine instantly that something is wrong, that you should never treat a child that like, that a classroom is not a wrestling mat," he said.
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - BoFox - 10-29-2015
F-f-f-f-fired!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/28/sc-deputy-who-appeared-to-toss-student-in-video-has-been-fired/
2 previous cases against him. He's losing big time. He could've broken her neck if she was tossed just a 6-12 inches further, hitting the wall.
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - ocre - 10-29-2015
There are bad people + cops are people = there will be bad cops
this one is purged
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - BenSkywalker - 10-29-2015
Quote:I'd call what happened to her "being roughly removed" more than I would beaten.
Beaten may be strong, roughly removed to me would have been more twisting her arm behind her back and folding her wrist to get her to do what you want.
Said another way, if that had been a cop sitting in that desk and I had done that to him, my ass would be heading up to the big house for, minimum, assaulting a police officer.
Quote:F-f-f-f-fired!!!
This actually makes me feel *significantly* better. That some cops will be bad is a given, take a group of a million anything and you'll have that. What I have a *MAJOR* issue with is the systematic support these bad cops get. We have a killer cop taken off the street, flies his Nazi flag on social media, put back on the street, kills again- and we are left wondering if he's still going to be a cop. Seriously, the fact that that can even enter the realm of reasoned discussion is sickening. This isn't fucking North Korea.
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - ocre - 10-29-2015
(10-29-2015, 07:37 PM)BenSkywalker Wrote:Quote:I'd call what happened to her "being roughly removed" more than I would beaten.
Beaten may be strong, roughly removed to me would have been more twisting her arm behind her back and folding her wrist to get her to do what you want.
Said another way, if that had been a cop sitting in that desk and I had done that to him, my ass would be heading up to the big house for, minimum, assaulting a police officer.
Quote:F-f-f-f-fired!!!
This actually makes me feel *significantly* better. That some cops will be bad is a given, take a group of a million anything and you'll have that. What I have a *MAJOR* issue with is the systematic support these bad cops get. We have a killer cop taken off the street, flies his Nazi flag on social media, put back on the street, kills again- and we are left wondering if he's still going to be a cop. Seriously, the fact that that can even enter the realm of reasoned discussion is sickening. This isn't fucking North Korea.
Good post!!!!
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - RolloTheGreat - 10-30-2015
(10-29-2015, 07:37 PM)BenSkywalker Wrote:Quote:I'd call what happened to her "being roughly removed" more than I would beaten.
Beaten may be strong, roughly removed to me would have been more twisting her arm behind her back and folding her wrist to get her to do what you want.
Said another way, if that had been a cop sitting in that desk and I had done that to him, my ass would be heading up to the big house for, minimum, assaulting a police officer.
Agreed, but have you ever seen "Cops"? Basically if you don't do what they say the cops manhandle you. The problem here is this is a minor who should have been taken home by their parent, suspended.
(10-29-2015, 07:37 PM)BenSkywalker Wrote:Quote:F-f-f-f-fired!!!
This actually makes me feel *significantly* better. That some cops will be bad is a given, take a group of a million anything and you'll have that. What I have a *MAJOR* issue with is the systematic support these bad cops get. We have a killer cop taken off the street, flies his Nazi flag on social media, put back on the street, kills again- and we are left wondering if he's still going to be a cop. Seriously, the fact that that can even enter the realm of reasoned discussion is sickening. This isn't fucking North Korea.
Innocent until proven guilty is the reason for the support, and cops have a job very much unlike ours. This guy apparently had multiple issues of excessive force in his history, so best he works somewhere he can't assault people.
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - dmcowen674 - 10-30-2015
(10-30-2015, 04:54 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: This guy apparently had multiple issues of excessive force in his history, so best he works somewhere he can't assault people.I'm disgusted on how many people online not only support the violent manhandling of this girl but even suggest he was within his right to use deadly force because she "resisted".
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - RolloTheGreat - 10-30-2015
(10-30-2015, 05:42 AM)dmcowen674 Wrote:(10-30-2015, 04:54 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: This guy apparently had multiple issues of excessive force in his history, so best he works somewhere he can't assault people.I'm disgusted on how many people online not only support the violent manhandling of this girl but even suggest he was within his right to use deadly force because she "resisted".
Agreed. Deadly force from cops should be reserved for when their life/limb are endangered.
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - BoFox - 10-30-2015
(10-30-2015, 06:56 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:(10-30-2015, 05:42 AM)dmcowen674 Wrote:(10-30-2015, 04:54 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: This guy apparently had multiple issues of excessive force in his history, so best he works somewhere he can't assault people.I'm disgusted on how many people online not only support the violent manhandling of this girl but even suggest he was within his right to use deadly force because she "resisted".
Agreed. Deadly force from cops should be reserved for when their life/limb are endangered.
Endangering the cop's limb with a fire axe, about to cut the cop's left hand off.... BAM!!! Shoots the cop the 6-year old girl in the head in a classroom, because his left hand is more important!
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - RolloTheGreat - 10-30-2015
(10-30-2015, 12:38 PM)BoFox Wrote: Endangering the cop's limb with a fire axe, about to cut the cop's left hand off.... BAM!!! Shoots the cop the 6-year old girl in the head in a classroom, because his left hand is more important!
You can contrive situations to fit any argument, but it doesn't prove anything.
E.G. Father wrongfully laid off for being Chinese because boss got a bad egg roll once, government fails to send unemployment check because oaf claims worker misspells his name, dad HAS to steal formula for his baby! Theft should be legal.
Does that make any sense. No.
Neither does "six year old menaces cop with fire axe so they shoot child with bazooka".
On the other hand, "Crack dealer in fortified crack house spraying neighborhood with automatic weapons shot by cops with bazooka" or "175 lb cop being beaten by 325 lb thug shoots thug with service revolver" don't sound so sensational, do they?
RE: South Carolina cop violently arrests 10th grade girl for using cell phone in class - BoFox - 11-01-2015
(10-30-2015, 05:42 AM)dmcowen674 Wrote:(10-30-2015, 04:54 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: This guy apparently had multiple issues of excessive force in his history, so best he works somewhere he can't assault people.I'm disgusted on how many people online not only support the violent manhandling of this girl but even suggest he was within his right to use deadly force because she "resisted".
These are war freaks who should be spending their lives in Iraq or Afghanistan. Better yet, Syria, to help contain all of the refugees, and maintain peace and order - at their own risk.