U.S. Court says public have no Constitutional right to record police

[dmcowen674]

2-23-2016

No First Amendment right to videorecord police unless you are challenging the police at the time

In recent years, lower federal courts have generally held that the First Amendment protects a right to videorecord (and photograph) in public places, especially when one is recording public servants such as the police.

But Friday’s federal trial court decision in Fields v. City of Philadelphia takes a different, narrower approach: There is no constitutional right to videorecord police, the court says, when the act of recording is unaccompanied by “challenge or criticism” of the police conduct.

[dmcowen674]

Not a good sign

[RolloTheGreat]

2-23-2016

No First Amendment right to videorecord police unless you are challenging the police at the time

In recent years, lower federal courts have generally held that the First Amendment protects a right to videorecord (and photograph) in public places, especially when one is recording public servants such as the police.

But Friday’s federal trial court decision in Fields v. City of Philadelphia takes a different, narrower approach: There is no constitutional right to videorecord police, the court says, when the act of recording is unaccompanied by “challenge or criticism” of the police conduct.

If you don't commit crimes or fight with them you will probably be safe Dave.

[BoFox]

Gosh, this is not right.  We're supposed to support each other - and we're paying them to "protect and serve" with our tax dollars. 
They're PUBLIC servants.  If they cannot be recorded by the public, are they really public servants, while we get to exercise our liberty and first amendment rights, OR NOT?

Like, the filming of Rodney King would've been illegal??

I'm hoping there's an appeal to overthrow the court decision ASAP. 

I think there will be, as there will be one too many un-necessary arrests of citizens videorecording the police on duty - especially as basically every citizen will be carrying a smartphone.  Some rich citizens will be real good friends with some of the best lawyers around - some will have the leadership to organize a mass class-action lawsuit.

[dmcowen674]

They just passed a law here in Indiana that the police don't have to release the body cam video.

[happy medium]

2-23-2016

No First Amendment right to videorecord police unless you are challenging the police at the time

In recent years, lower federal courts have generally held that the First Amendment protects a right to videorecord (and photograph) in public places, especially when one is recording public servants such as the police.

But Friday’s federal trial court decision in Fields v. City of Philadelphia takes a different, narrower approach: There is no constitutional right to videorecord police, the court says, when the act of recording is unaccompanied by “challenge or criticism” of the police conduct.

If you don't commit crimes or fight with them you will probably be safe Dave.

I live in Philly and your not exactly safe even if your not a criminal. Philly police have no problem giving you the old Bristol stomp and saying "oh sorry wrong guy". Cops are given to much power and never are held responsible. I'm guessing you live in a neighborhood that has very little crime and is mostly white?

[RolloTheGreat]

2-23-2016

No First Amendment right to videorecord police unless you are challenging the police at the time

In recent years, lower federal courts have generally held that the First Amendment protects a right to videorecord (and photograph) in public places, especially when one is recording public servants such as the police.

But Friday’s federal trial court decision in Fields v. City of Philadelphia takes a different, narrower approach: There is no constitutional right to videorecord police, the court says, when the act of recording is unaccompanied by “challenge or criticism” of the police conduct.

If you don't commit crimes or fight with them you will probably be safe Dave.

I live in Philly and your not exactly safe even if your not a criminal. Philly police have no problem giving you the old Bristol stomp and saying "oh sorry wrong guy". Cops are given to much power and never are held responsible. I'm guessing you live in a neighborhood that has very little crime and is mostly white?

There are minority and alternate lifestyle families in my neighborhood.

Like me, they're not committing crimes or fighting with the police. We're all happy the cops patrol through our streets and keep our families safe.

[SteelCrysis]

Cops in MN are Minnesota nice in my experience. Then again, I'm white, so depending on your race your mileage may vary.

[BoFox]

If you don't commit crimes or fight with them you will probably be safe Dave.

I live in Philly and your not exactly safe even if your not a criminal. Philly police have no problem giving you the old Bristol stomp and saying "oh sorry wrong guy". Cops are given to much power and never are held responsible. I'm guessing you live in a neighborhood that has very little crime and is mostly white?

Cop's "mama-boys" think they're all safe and snuggly - cops love these mama-boys who think they're safe under the mama hen's wings.  That is, until Rollo has a super-sexy daughter.  She grows up, and gets engaged with a cop that she was dating for a couple months.  Rollo sees the cop beating her up, and tries to videorecord the whole thing.  The cop arrests Rollo for doing this, and presses him with several other bogus arrest charges like assault and battery, resisting arrest, etc..  While Rollo is in jail, his daughter breaks up with the cop.  The cop then invites a few of his other cop friends to gang-rape her.  Of course, she'd never tell anybody else, because nobody would ever believe her, even Rollo (in his normal state before he went to jail). 

[RolloTheGreat]

Cops in MN are Minnesota nice in my experience. Then again, I'm white, so depending on your race your mileage may vary.

There is no doubt that there are incidents where cops abuse their power either by mistake or deliberately. No one disagrees that in these incidents they should be dismissed, or prosecuted.

It's also true that those incidents are statistically very small, and that in any job you will have people that suck at it.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/.../79490322/

Here's a white guy the police shot. Before this video was released his fellow illegal protesters were saying he was on his knees, hands in the air, begging for his life when they shot him. Video shows him reaching for his gun after almost running over cop.

If this guy would have stuck to raising cattle would the cops have shot him?

No.

He committed crimes and resisted arrest, and that is the story with 99% of the people who get shot or beat up by cops.

It's pretty easy for people who work in offices to see the violence in the news when the cops make a mistake or are just bad cops and say, "Heavens to Betsy! These armed hooligans are abusing the public trust!".

None of us have to be involved in physical confrontations that could end our lives day in, day out.

The fact of the matter is almost all of the cops are people I want doing their job and trust, and almost all of the criminals are people I want arrested and incarcerated.

[BoFox]

2-23-2016

No First Amendment right to videorecord police unless you are challenging the police at the time

In recent years, lower federal courts have generally held that the First Amendment protects a right to videorecord (and photograph) in public places, especially when one is recording public servants such as the police.

But Friday’s federal trial court decision in Fields v. City of Philadelphia takes a different, narrower approach: There is no constitutional right to videorecord police, the court says, when the act of recording is unaccompanied by “challenge or criticism” of the police conduct.

If you don't commit crimes or fight with them you will probably be safe Dave.

If you don't videorecord the police harassing somebody you know right outside your favorite restaurant, you will probably be safe Rollo.  

Replace the word "probably" with "definitely", until the court decision is overturned.  (LOL at my wording..)   Until then, America isn't as safe a place as when we're all not legally allowed to videorecord the public servants that we pay for out of our own pockets with our tax dollars.  Ever heard of the words, "Corrupt police state"?

[RolloTheGreat]

If you don't commit crimes or fight with them you will probably be safe Dave.

I live in Philly and your not exactly safe even if your not a criminal. Philly police have no problem giving you the old Bristol stomp and saying "oh sorry wrong guy". Cops are given to much power and never are held responsible. I'm guessing you live in a neighborhood that has very little crime and is mostly white?

Cop's "mama-boys" think they're all safe and snuggly - cops love these mama-boys who think they're safe under the mama hen's wings.  That is, until Rollo has a super-sexy daughter.  She grows up, and gets engaged with a cop that she was dating for a couple months.  Rollo sees the cop beating her up, and tries to videorecord the whole thing.  The cop arrests Rollo for doing this, and presses him with several other bogus arrest charges like assault and battery, resisting arrest, etc..  While Rollo is in jail, his daughter breaks up with the cop.  The cop then invites a few of his other cop friends to gang-rape her.  Of course, she'd never tell anybody else, because nobody would ever believe her, even Rollo (in his normal state before he went to jail). 

Some really Christian stuff right there.

Fantasies about cops beating and gang raping women.

Just kidding.

What's interesting is I never think about gang rapes, murder, Nazis, etc. - is this sort of stuff the way of Christians? My wife and son are Christians, this sort of thing is outside their reality as well.

[BoFox]

Well, there is evil out there in the world (like, murders, etc.). 

Doesn't mean I'm evil for being "wise like a serpent"..   yet, I was "harmless like a dove"...  I guess?