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I say this based on:
A. Apoppin saying he does not believe RyZen will beat intel for gaming, sight unseen. Could it be he wants review samples to further his long standing anti AMD stance?
B. Speaking of, Apoppin has literally hours of time and thousands of words of text on the net reviling AMD.
C.Apoppins attack mutt GStan shows up here to tell the world "Apoppin can speak how he will of AMD!". His other attack mutt SB has been posting about how BabelTechReviews shouldn't even soil themselves with AMD.
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(02-27-2017, 08:25 AM)gstanford Wrote: There is only one dog on this forum and it wasn't named by you.
You are truly pathetic. Go ask AMD for some CPU's and see if you can better apoppin or not.
Won't do that though, will you?! Slandering is easier.
I have no desire to review or promote products GStan. No money in it.
I don't know anyone at AMD, and I kind of doubt they would even speak to me given our history.
Nonetheless, I'm totally impressed with what they have done with RyZen. This is roughly the equivalent of S3 launching a GPU that equals Pascal. It "could" happen, but the odds are pretty long it won't.
You should give them more respect than you do. They have apparently equaled the best in the world in a high tech field. That is a
little more impressive than knowing how to fix computers at the service center or me being a software support and training person.
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what is the current revision of the zen chips in the leaks?
isnt it way up there?
I think they really took their time on this. They didnt rush it. They actually went back many times to get it right.
Its very commendable considering how bad behind they were. They took a massive beating while going thru revision after revision with zen.
this chip is very interesting to me. Its new, very different from anything lately.
Rollo, i am greatly excited for Zen. But intel got so fucking lazy and their progress has been pathetic. Your analogy is a little extreme here. Not trying to take anything away from AMD but S3 releasing a pascal like gpu? Thats ridiculous.
We all talk crap about bulldozer but since sandy bridge, intel has done several generational side steps. They havent advanced much, its been really...a joke.
So unlike S3 trying to drop a pascal like chip, the target for AMD wasnt one that i would call fast moving. Its hard to to argue that intel was moving much at all. A barely moving target. All the years and all the "new" generations, intel barely progressed.
NVidia has been making one stride after another. AMD catching intel is wonderful but intel hasnt been moving forward in an impressive way at all. With nvidia, AMD cant slack there. Nvidia is blasting forward...very different.
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I can't disagree, my example was a little extreme. Just shocked to see something new in the pc world that actually matters to me.
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(03-01-2017, 07:55 AM)gstanford Wrote: Quote:But intel got so fucking lazy and their progress has been pathetic.
Well, what if intel had had another Sandy Bridge moment? How would AMD keep up then? Intel has bent over backwards to keep AMD alive while they designed Zen (it wouldn't be good for intel for AMD to go bust, intel doesn't want to be seen to be a monopoly).
intel's motivates are likely profit, not AMD Gstan.
Let's say you had processor tech 50% more powerful than Sandy Bridge in house.
Would you make more money selling it once? Or ten times?
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(03-01-2017, 09:14 AM)gstanford Wrote: It's hard to make profit when the government is chopping you into small pieces for being a monopoly.
Intel is not a monopoly in the computing world.
http://www.viatech.com/en/silicon/processors/
For one, VIA makes X86 CPUs as well, and I believe companies like IBM are licensed to do so and just choose not to.
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/23991...windows-10
Also, if ARM cpus can run x86, they have a lot of competition.
Last, I don't know what defines the CPU market intel is in. If it's X86, yes they are encroaching on monopoly territory. However; if their market is "computing devices that run software applications" they have a lot of competition from mobile markets. (and something like my Shield tablet could serve most people's computer needs- easily enough power to run office apps and light gaming)
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Well, a user apparently got his 1700x early:
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-de...enchmarks/
And that's at stock clocks, I believe. Color me impressed. *shrugs*
Any of you gentlemen taking the plunge?
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(03-02-2017, 02:15 PM)googoo24 Wrote: Well, a user apparently got his 1700x early:
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-de...enchmarks/
And that's at stock clocks, I believe. Color me impressed. *shrugs*
Any of you gentlemen taking the plunge?
I am impressed as well, but will only be buying if I get bored and feel like building.
I've got a water cooled 4790K now and have to doubt I would see noticeable gains at my two possible gaming resolutions, 3440 X 1440 and 4K. (Those are my monitor resolutions, and the tv in the same room as the PC is 4K)
If they show a 10fps bump in shooters at my resolutions, the above is subject to change.
