03-27-2017, 10:19 AM
(03-24-2017, 03:50 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: Ocre, we need to see more than rumors of incidentally collected information to know if Trump was truthful in his claims or not.
At best, leaking info like this on Twitter might be a crime itself- and that's if it is true.
AFAIK presidents shouldn't post classified information from ongoing investigations on their Facebook page.
What's next? Buying everyone a round of drinks at a sports bar and discussing North Korea?
As far as the "evil Trump hating media" goes, aren't they the same people who told us about Benghazi, HRCs email, gifts to the Clinton Foundation, Monica Lewinski, Linda Tripp, Jennifer Flowers until we were ready to turn off the news?
They were right about all that stuff but wrong about Trump?
Could be they 're just doing their job?
you know...before the tweet and before the health care bill being pulled, there was a very interesting finding: 88% of news coverage up until that point had been hostile towards the president. Its been 24/7 all out attack on trump. Its been extreme and to the max.
There has been an effort to completely destroy trump and prevent him from having any success.
You might say it is all justified...sure it is.
There are some very good reasons Trump needs to be stopped and there is so much effort in taking him down. Its not just democrats, btw. The american people cant be electing people outside, they need to stop something like this from ever happening again. Trump is a threat to the political powers and he there are great forces that will do anything to prevent his success. Even if it is self inflicting: the health care flop.
As for more evidence before we can say trump was telling the truth-
Of course he lied. Didnt you read that. He was crucified to no end by the MSM. They told us he lied and now i should believe them even though they have a vested interest in taking him down. Even though they were recipients of leaked information from this immoral surveillance that the obama purposefully had spread across 17 intelligent agencies when he signed an unprecedented executive order days before he handed over the presidency to Trump. You dont seem to acknowledge that one, which is extremely shady and messed up all in itself.
The data collected, reports created, executive order spreading it, then the leaking...all good i guess. Thats not a problem, all normal huh? The way one party hands over the presidency to the opposition part, its just how things work. Yeah, right!
Lets just waver all. We cant say trump told the truth or not without having more facts. I honestly am not arguing that trump told the truth or not, cause ultimately it will take pictures of obama plugging in physical wires in trumps penthouse before many in the mainstream media would ever say trump was right. And its sad some people dont realize that.
There was surveillance and there is a huge problem with it. There are senior people involved which is a major concern. The private hearings coming up are to do with this. It will not all be made public, but there will be more information. I am sure of that.
What do you need before you can say that perhaps trump wasnt full of crap? What information would make you at least reconsider your assertion that he was lying? It was pretty easy for you to decide he was lying, without having seen anything, What would it take for you to change your mind?
Do you need a picture of obama soldering the phone wires? If not, then what.
Finally, on the crime you say trump committed on twitter. Strange. Cause i was under the impression that anything a president wants to declassify, he can. Just like that.