03-29-2017, 10:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-29-2017, 10:19 PM by SteelCrysis.)
(03-29-2017, 02:19 PM)BenSkywalker Wrote: Did he try preaching that to the voyagers on the St Louis? I mean, he could try and find the mass graves FDR's refusal to grant them asylum resulted in.Not a single Jewish person on the St. Louis was sent back to Nazi Germany. All of them found homes either in continental Europe or the UK. Which didn't work out for a lot of them when Nazi Germany did the unforseeable and overran most of the rest of Europe. Everyone also forgets that the original destination of the St. Louis was Cuba, and Cuba was the first country to deny them entry. Yet Cuba is never the subject of controversy. Hmm...
Quote:They became both more severe and the quotas that were in place were rarely met under FDR's administration. But let's put aside the insane FDR defense spin and just look at numbers-Funny, the Immigration Act of 1924 begs to differ with those statistics: http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5078/ "Total Annual immigrant quota: 164,667" Then there was the the Emergency Quota Act, passed in 1921, which was a slightly less severe version of the Immigration Act of 1924. Both became law during the administration of Coolidge, but not Harding like I said earlier. Coolidge was a Republican.
http://www.emmigration.info/us-immigrati...istics.htm
Just over 500K immigrants admitted in the 1930s...... Those measures passed by Republican presidents resulted in a low of 4 million for a decade prior to FDR. Also, if we are just doing Democrat versus Republican, H Bush upped the legal immigration quota by 40% with the 1990 act he signed. As I stated this isn't a left versus right issue, but I wanted to put the poster child for right versus left thinking up to compare on the issue of immigration.
Ben fails to notice in his own link the immigration-reducing words in parentheses next to the 1930s statistics: "Great Depression".
Quote:The St Louis arrived after Kristallnacht, begged for asylum and were refused.Irrelevant, given that the USA was not the first choice of Jews fleeing Nazi Germany.
Quote:Edit- Forgot to mention Steel, you completely ignored the internment camps that FDR was tossing over 100,000 legal US citizens in because of their ancestry.Irrelevant, given that there was nothing to dispute.
(03-29-2017, 09:23 PM)24601 Wrote: Absolutely hilarious discussion, considering that everything Hitler did in the form of general policies were nothing more than a poor imitation of his personal hero Andrew Jackson.A little weird, given that the only American mentioned in Mein Kampf is Henry Ford.
Quote:Hitler was put into power by collusion between US, UK, and German oligarchs and bankers to curbstomp the advancement of Communism in Germany, the land of Marx.What? He was given power by a bunch of German conservatives who thought they could control him.
Quote:The same thing happened in Japan, where Teddy Roosevelt personally decided that China was the "Sick Man of Asia" and that the Chinese was an inferior yellow race that's legacy should be furthered by the superior Japanese race.Communism in the 1900s was just an underground movement in Russia, how could it have gained control of Japan?
He then colluded to affect the officer's coup in Japan and made Nazi Japan.
One should note that Japan was likely to have become Communist without this intervention.
Quote:It's pretty funny whenever people try to say that genocide isn't as common as water in western civilization.What?
One should break out the popcorn and watch the genocide of minorities in Europe when the Oligarchs feel the pressure of the Communists coming to power are felt again.
No point in quibbling over which oligarchs did what and when. It's simply the standard playbook of Oligarchs to rally the lumpenproletariat when they fear a Communist Revolution.
Every single major political party in US history has been a party of oligarchs.
The only time they showed slight signs of not being purely for the interest of oligarchs was simply when the oligarchs were afraid of a communist revolution in the US.
By the 70's the oligarchs started to assauge their fears and make big strides in peeling back anything and everything that had to do with public good.
When the Soviet Union collapsed the Oligarchs took it as a sign that they no longer had anything to fear, and that is when they started dismantling everything that they could.
Watching you guys quibble over which which slightly non-overlapping group of Oligarchs should be in power is just funny.
The only real difference between the Republicans and Democrats is that the Republicans currently have more Resource Oligarchs dictating the terms while Democrats currently have more Technology Oligarchs dictating the terms.

