03-30-2017, 09:56 AM
So back to the OP.
Apparently Andrew Napolitano isnt banned from fox news. Not only has he been back on Fox, he is still saying the same things that he was supposed to be banned over. Actually, he is doubling down on those claims.
There is something to all of this. Trumps tweet which stirred up so much and was completely written off. It was proclaimed to be so outlandish, completely out of touch in reality.
And oh how things have changed. Now, he is still being called a liar but its held together by technicalities.
We now hear there was some sort of surveillance, these reports are supposed to be from data collected in the normal legal monitoring of foreign diplomats. But if its true, the story this being incidental collection is much more problematic than it sounds. If the data collected is real, if the reports generated from them are real...then at best people deliberately bypassed having to have a court order, deliberately unmasked names by an order from people high up, then people listened thru tons of "incidentally collected" and generated reports on the unmasked individuals.
It took a number of people for this to occur on the collection side and it took high officials to order the unmasking. But here is the biggest red flag in it all: Obama's executive order which was hastily pushed thru in his final hours of presidency before Trump took office. This order is impossible to argue, it was created to spread all this new information to 17 different agencies. It is a very odd thing to do, never been done before.
It is real and has made it thousands of times more difficult to pin point leaks which were used by the media in their assault on trump. Much of the leaked info was spun for maximum damage. The result of this executive order is one of the few logical reasons that one could arrive if they pondered its purpose in the first place. This is Obama who did the executive order...that is a real thing.
We know hardly nothing about this data that was collected. But if its real, even the best case is a massive problem for some really high and powerful officials. I think its so big that we wont ever know all the facts. But i also think that Trump saying he was only "somewhat" vindicated is probably a good sign that there is a lot more than what has been going around. But thats just how i took his reaction.
I am a very reasonable person and i will easily flip on this if more info starts to show it didnt happen. But honestly K think anyone free of mind who watched the crucifixion after trumps tweet just to then started hearing this new info, they would step far back. Its harder for me now to accept any of the MSM narrative on this. I mean, why should i?
That doesnt mean trump is right or that his tweets were not full of shit. Cause i only have the word of the head of the house investigation, which is vague and even he claims incomplete. But, its huge deal if true. And, there are little things from other sources that make it plausible.
Its enough to make me put a hold on all the MSM has said on it. My gut says there is something to it. I just wanted to caution others from jumping on any of the MSM claims on this so far. Cause more will come out...and there is not enough info known to public yet.
Its now the "not in the way trump said" mode by many. Technically, sure.
I mean, terms like wire tapping...i think its dumb to think that it means physical wires.. I mean, how do you even do that when everyone uses wireless cell phones these days. Also, for something like this to happen...given that obama did sign an executive order which would spread this information, that it would have taken high up officials and several people to do such a thing.. perhaps there is an Obama hand in it...at the very least, his administration. But the executive order? It is the one and only.
But of course, its speculative... Dont know at all until more facts come out. But there looks to be something to this, hope it all comes out. But that really is a massive problem, if this is true.
But here we are now... the OP guy who was supposedly banned for his comments, well he is back. And he is still making those comments. Isnt that interesting?
Apparently Andrew Napolitano isnt banned from fox news. Not only has he been back on Fox, he is still saying the same things that he was supposed to be banned over. Actually, he is doubling down on those claims.
There is something to all of this. Trumps tweet which stirred up so much and was completely written off. It was proclaimed to be so outlandish, completely out of touch in reality.
And oh how things have changed. Now, he is still being called a liar but its held together by technicalities.
We now hear there was some sort of surveillance, these reports are supposed to be from data collected in the normal legal monitoring of foreign diplomats. But if its true, the story this being incidental collection is much more problematic than it sounds. If the data collected is real, if the reports generated from them are real...then at best people deliberately bypassed having to have a court order, deliberately unmasked names by an order from people high up, then people listened thru tons of "incidentally collected" and generated reports on the unmasked individuals.
It took a number of people for this to occur on the collection side and it took high officials to order the unmasking. But here is the biggest red flag in it all: Obama's executive order which was hastily pushed thru in his final hours of presidency before Trump took office. This order is impossible to argue, it was created to spread all this new information to 17 different agencies. It is a very odd thing to do, never been done before.
It is real and has made it thousands of times more difficult to pin point leaks which were used by the media in their assault on trump. Much of the leaked info was spun for maximum damage. The result of this executive order is one of the few logical reasons that one could arrive if they pondered its purpose in the first place. This is Obama who did the executive order...that is a real thing.
We know hardly nothing about this data that was collected. But if its real, even the best case is a massive problem for some really high and powerful officials. I think its so big that we wont ever know all the facts. But i also think that Trump saying he was only "somewhat" vindicated is probably a good sign that there is a lot more than what has been going around. But thats just how i took his reaction.
I am a very reasonable person and i will easily flip on this if more info starts to show it didnt happen. But honestly K think anyone free of mind who watched the crucifixion after trumps tweet just to then started hearing this new info, they would step far back. Its harder for me now to accept any of the MSM narrative on this. I mean, why should i?
That doesnt mean trump is right or that his tweets were not full of shit. Cause i only have the word of the head of the house investigation, which is vague and even he claims incomplete. But, its huge deal if true. And, there are little things from other sources that make it plausible.
Its enough to make me put a hold on all the MSM has said on it. My gut says there is something to it. I just wanted to caution others from jumping on any of the MSM claims on this so far. Cause more will come out...and there is not enough info known to public yet.
Its now the "not in the way trump said" mode by many. Technically, sure.
I mean, terms like wire tapping...i think its dumb to think that it means physical wires.. I mean, how do you even do that when everyone uses wireless cell phones these days. Also, for something like this to happen...given that obama did sign an executive order which would spread this information, that it would have taken high up officials and several people to do such a thing.. perhaps there is an Obama hand in it...at the very least, his administration. But the executive order? It is the one and only.
But of course, its speculative... Dont know at all until more facts come out. But there looks to be something to this, hope it all comes out. But that really is a massive problem, if this is true.
But here we are now... the OP guy who was supposedly banned for his comments, well he is back. And he is still making those comments. Isnt that interesting?