[EDIT]hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? (and history of 3Dfx Rampage)

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https://www.techpowerup.com/233388/amd-a...for-gamers
Hmm.

The final configuration of Vega was finalized some two years ago, and AMD's vision for it was to have a GPU that could plow through 4K resolutions at over 60 frames per second. And Vega has achieved it. Sniper Elite 4 at over 60 FPS on 4K. Afterwards, Raja talked about AMD's High Bandwidth Cache Controller, running Rise of the Tomb Raider, giving the system only 2 GB of system memory, with the HBCC-enabled system delivering more than 3x the minimum frame-rates than the non-HBCC enabled system, something we've seen in the past, though on Deus Ex: mankind Divided. So now we know that wasn't just a single-shot trick.

from that article

Vega Frontier Edition is the Vega GPU we've been seeing in leaks in the last few weeks, packing 16 GB of HBM2 memory, which, as we posited, didn't really make much sense on typical gaming workloads. But we have to say that if AMD's Vega truly does deliver only a 1.5x improvement in FP32 performance (the one that's most critical for gaming at the moment), this probably paints AMD's Vega as fighting an uphill battle against NVIDIA's Pascal architecture (probably ending up somewhere between GTX 1070 and GTX 1080). If these are correct, this could mean a dual GPU Vega is indeed in the works, so as to allow AMD to reclaim the performance crown from NVIDIA, albeit with a dual-GPU configuration against NVIDIA's current single-chip performance king, Titan Xp. Also worth nothing is that the AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition uses two PCI-Express 8-pin power connectors, which suggests a power draw north of 300 Watts

The first part in bold- All i have to say is, WHAT???? This is an official slide, what is this guy talking about? "if AMD's VEGA truly does deliver only a 1.5x improvement"??? Surely this guy knows about AMD marketing hype. There is mountains of evidence, over and over, AMDs current GPU division takes best case scenarios to the next level. Exaggerations to the max, all the way to obscene. Polaris was pre-launch was completely full of outrageous figures that were proven to be extremely far out when the cards actually launched. So expecting the 1.5x to be an underestimation seems irrational to me. Its more of a question of if Vega will actually meant that performance.

But you know this reminds me.....many many many months ago, my VEGA projection, It was that AMD would find it hard to catch the 1080 with vega. I went further to project vega performance to land somewhere between the 1070 and 1080 non ti


One thing i didnt expect was how far out the Vega launch would be. Now this is truly the surprise to me.