10-24-2017, 11:11 AM
Quote:Ben, you say you think Trump is a populist, but consider this:
It's not what I think, it is what every educated political pundit- right or left wing- agrees upon.
Quote:- he has been trying to take away healthcare from the poorest Americans
Polarization issue- a flat out lie. The poorest Americans are covered under government subsidies as they were before- the only exception being the homeless who weren't covered under Obamacare anyway. This is a silly little polarization talking point- not true.
Quote:- he has made tax cuts which disproportionately benefit the rich
/facepalm
The rich pay almost all the taxes, you could eliminate 100% of the tax burden from the middle class and trim 5% off of the top bracket and the rich would 'benefit more'. Show me a tax cut in history that didn't benefit the rich more then the other classes- any tax cut.
Quote:- he is pro gun
He has been talking that way lately, nothing he has done has backed that up, but he is delivering that rhetoric which is actually a 'right wing' issue, I can spot you that one.
Quote:- he is a social conservative
...... what....? Not even a little bit, not in any way that I have ever witnessed- what has he done or said that made you think he was a social conservative? The man comes off as a run of the mill atheist businessman- not saying there is anything particularly wrong with that, just it is not, in any way, socially conservative. Heard him talk about his son in law? The man gushes about him like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread- the Jewish man that married his gentile daughter.
Quote:- he sympathizes with white nationalists
Bullshit. Prove it. Show me anything that he has done that supports this.
Just so you know the level you need to go to- Barrack Obama gave a touching eulogy for a man who was a ranking member of the KKK earlier in his life- while he was President. Show me how Trump has exceeded that level of white nationalist support.
Furthermore- nationalism isn't a right wing ideal- the most murderous nationalist in history was Stalin- poster boy for the extreme left. Nationalism and racism hasn't been a left/right issue since the right freed the slaves.
Quote:- he is pro military
As were FDR and JFK, although at least in the modern sense this has become a right issue so I can spot you that one- at least on a rhetoric basis.
Quote:- his education minister is essentially trying to privatize public education nation wide
Flat out lie- and this is one I would actually want to be true.
You know what she did do though? She made changes that push colleges to allow legitimate trials for people accused of violations of their code instead of summary judgement based on preponderance of evidence. The liberal mouthpiece in the US-
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/08/opini...le-iv.html
So I have he talks to gain the NRA support- although he hasn't done anything to prove that yet- and he talks up the military- although again, no actual actions.
Not very right wing.
Quote:Are you a Trump supporter?
Fuck no, the man is a walking caricature of everything wrong with politicians. He is detestable, a mockery of anything a leader should be. The man cares more about his Twitter feed then any actual accomplishments. Total tool.
With that said, the polarization issue is one we need to deal with. These things just keep getting worse and until they green light us flying KKK/Antifa/NeoNazis onto a deserted island and letting them kill each other, I think we should be working towards dialogue and not demagoguery.