11-03-2017, 05:03 AM
Quote:Right now we're seeing CEOs make hundreds or even thousands of times as much as the average worker makes in the company.
How much does someone playing in the minors make compared to Sidney Crosby? How about a small town stage actor compared to an A list Hollywood star? I could keep going over and over with comparable examples, but the top tier of talent normally makes thousands of times more then the lowest tier in all sorts of fields, why should the one field that actually matters to the masses be different? That's an honest question, I don't understand the logic behind your train of thought, am genuinely curious.
Quote:Make it relative tied to the net worth of the company.
Shutting down first world factories and moving them to south east Asia is the fastest way for most companies to up their valuation, do we really want to encourage more of that?
Quote:As for the offshore money, I have a feeling that the amount involved is a lot higher than you think. You are correct that it pales in comparison to the offshore corporate money, but really, it's not fair at all that these extremely wealthy people are paying *nothing* in terms of income tax on all that money.
In 1952 corporate taxes paid 32% of the US budget, today that is around 10%-
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/arc...ce/478293/
During that time corporate profits have absolutely exploded.
Quote:If you are worried about offshore corporate money, perhaps you should lobby your government to lower the corporate tax rate.
You are *FAR* to my right on this one. I'd rather corporations pay a higher share then people. I think the US doesn't tax corporations enough, but with global trading they keep their money in the far right countries. Individuals pay eight times what corporations pay in the US already- claiming to be progressive while suggesting we favor corporations even more seems a bit of a stretch to me.
Quote:It blows my mind that you guys aren't all lobbying your politicians to essentially implement our system down there.
The US pays a hugely disproportionate percentage of global medical R&D, if we implement your system, we hurt our children. If we take trillions out of the medical industry, where do you think it's going to come from? Now I'd like to see all countries pitch in a fair amount so we don't have to carry the burden, but I'm not OK with R&D levels plummeting for all of humanity to save a couple of bucks.
Quote:The FUD you hear about our system is not true.
Most of my mother's side of the family lives in Canada, I don't particularly consider funerals FUD, and I've had to go to a few that were caused by the 'quality' of health care in Canada. If you have unlimited money, you come to the US if you get really sick. Yes, I understand that prices some people out of the market, and there are certainly things we could do that would help lessen the gap, but if the only way to do that is to lose the top end- that just doesn't make sense. The hyper expensive treatments only the rich can afford today, in ten years regular people will be able to afford, in twenty years even Canada will have it. Simply removing the top tier of care doesn't, in any way, make us better.
Quote:For example, Trump Jr. taking away his young daughter's Halloween candy to teach her about "socialism".
That was a joke..... I'm honestly stupefied that people took that seriously
Quote:People like that are the reason why you guys will never have nice things like universal healthcare.
If the rest of the world did things our way we'd probably have cancer cured by now.