Turing Discussion Thread

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https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvi...09-14.html

Now, the problem with GeForce RTX 2080, Nvidia’s second-fastest Turing card, is that it’s only marginally faster than GeForce GTX 1080 Ti. Moreover, Nvidia’s Pascal-based flagship is currently available for about $100 less than the RTX 2080 Founders Edition. Neither card allows you enjoy 4K gaming unconditionally. If you want to crank up the detail settings, they both necessitate dropping to 2560x1440 occasionally. In fact, it’s easier to think of them as ideal companions for high-refresh QHD monitors.

Nvidia does try for a more favorable comparison by pitting the 2080 against GeForce GTX 1080. But there’s no way to reconcile a greater-than $300 difference between the cheapest 1080s and GeForce RTX 2080 Founders Edition’s asking price. It’d be like comparing GeForce GTX 1080 Ti to GTX 980 a year ago; they’re simply in different classes.

Notice that we’re not talking about ray tracing as a reason to buy GeForce RTX 2080 instead of GTX 1080 Ti. Without question, the technology packed into Turing has us captivated. And if the first game to launch with real-time hybrid rendering support bowls us over, we’ll change our tune. However, we’re not going to recommend paying a premium today for hardware that can’t be fully utilized yet based solely on what it should be able to do in the future. This is doubly true since we don't yet know how RTX 2080 fares with two-thirds of RTX 2080 Ti's RT core count.

There will come a time when the availability of Pascal-based GeForce cards tapers off, removing the choice between GeForce GTX 1080 Ti and RTX 2080. By then we hope to see 2080s that start in the $700 range, replacing GTX 1080 Ti with a more capable successor. For now, though, GeForce RTX 2080 feels like a side-grade to GTX 1080 Ti. It's faster and more expensive, with a lot more potential, but not something we'd rush to jump into right now.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvi...05-14.html

But we fancy ourselves advocates for enthusiasts, and we still can't recommend placing $1200 on the altar of progress to create an audience for game developers to target. If you choose to buy GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, do so for its performance today, not based on the potential of its halo feature.
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In the end, Nvidia built a big, beautiful flagship in its GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founder Edition. We’ve smothered CEO Jensen Huang’s favorite features with caveats just to cover our bases. And we commiserate with the gamers unable to justify spending $1200 on such a luxury. But there’s no way around the fact that, if you own a 4K monitor and tire of picking quality settings to dial back in exchange for playable performance, this card is unrivaled.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVID...on/38.html

While we understand that Turing GPUs are bigger and pack more components, bring more performance to the table, and that they're "more than a GPU from 2017," the current pricing is hard to justify, with the RTX 2080 starting at $700, and the RTX 2080 Ti at $1000. The once basic Founders Edition add another $100/$200 on top of that, and custom board designs will be even more expensive. Similar leaps in technology in the past did not trigger such hikes in graphics card prices over generation. We hence feel that in their current form, the RTX 20-series is overpriced by at least 20% across the board, and could deter not just bleeding-edge enthusiasts, but also people upgrading from older generations such as "Maxwell." For games that don't use RTX, the generational performance gains are significant, but not as big as those between "Maxwell" and "Pascal." On the other hand, I doubt that many gamers will opt for Pascal when they choose to upgrade their graphics card, especially with the promises of RTX and AI that NVIDIA is definitely going to market big. The key factor here will be game support, which looks to be gaining steam fast, if going by recent announcements.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVID...on/38.html

At $799 for the Founders Edition and $699 as the baseline price, the GeForce RTX 2080 has a more justifiable price-tag than the RTX 2080 Ti, given that the GTX 1080 launched at $699 for the Founders Edition. We feel that the RTX 2080 is still overpriced by at least 10%, despite the fact that Turing is "more than a 2017 GPU" on account of its new on-die hardware. Most factory-overclocked custom design cards could be priced north of $800, which puts it out of reach from not just people wanting to upgrade from "Pascal," but also those coming from "Maxwell," and actually needing such an upgrade. Since the RTX 2080 convincingly beats the GTX 1080 Ti, choosing this card over a GTX 1080 Ti that's hovering the $700-mark makes abundant sense. Similar leaps in technology as RTX, in the past, did not raise prices to this extent over generation. If this is a ploy to get rid of unsold "Pascal" cards, it could backfire for NVIDIA. Every "Pascal" customer is one less "Turing RTX" customer for the foreseeable future.