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Ocre, I have a 32" TV as well, same brand as the 40".  it's a 720p  tv.  Text is NOT unreadable (or weird) on it from 2 feet away.  Can post images if you want to argue.  In any case you, not sickbeast or I was the one to bring 720p and screen sizes under 40" here.  I've only ever talked about 40" & 55" TV's that do 1080p here (except for when I mentioned the 32" in connection with the PS3 if I'm going somewhere and want to take a screen with me).

My 40" TV is a far better monitor than any dedicated monitor I've ever owned and I include my Samsung 30" 2560x1600 in that (and that thing will send you blind trying to read small text at native resolution - you need a microscope to see anything).

If you get the right TV, it's PC/game mode will be every bit as good as a dedicated monitor at whatever resolution the TV supports nowadays, it is extremely simple.

I'd sit you in front of my rigs and let you see for yourself if we weren't in different countries.

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This will bring the discussion to an end.

http://i.imgur.com/288uA9p.jpg

The image in the link is of the bottom right corner of my 40" TV @1080p.  Firefox is rendering text at the default size (no text zoom - CTRL + 0).

The camera used is my Fuji F8000fd - 8 mp capable.  it was in macro mode and approx half a foot from the screen when the image was taken.  The EXIF information for the image is below.  Image resolution is 3264 x 2448.

Code:

Filename - DSCF0011.JPG Make - FUJIFILM Model - FinePix S8000fd Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Digital Camera FinePix S8000fd Ver1.00 DateTime - 2007:01:01 00:00:50 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited Copyright - ExifOffset - 294 ExposureTime - 1/50 seconds FNumber - 2.80 ExposureProgram - Normal program ISOSpeedRatings - 64 ExifVersion - 0220 DateTimeOriginal - 2007:01:01 00:00:50 DateTimeDigitized - 2007:01:01 00:00:50 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 2.00 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 1/49 seconds ApertureValue - F 2.83 BrightnessValue - 4.30 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 2.83 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Flash not fired, compulsory flash mode FocalLength - 4.70 mm FlashPixVersion - 0100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 3264 ExifImageHeight - 2448 InteroperabilityOffset - 978 FocalPlaneXResolution - 5714 FocalPlaneYResolution - 5714 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Centimeter SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Normal process ExposureMode - Auto White Balance - Auto SceneCaptureType - Standard Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Version - 30333130 Quality - NORMAL Sharpness - Normal White Balance - Auto Color saturation - Normal Flash Mode - Off Flash Strength - 0.00 Macro - On Focus mode - Auto Slow Sync. - Off Picture Mode - Auto Unknown - 1 Sequence mode - Off Unknown - 0 Blur warning - No Focus warning - No (Focus OK) AE warning - No (AE good) Thumbnail: - Compression - 6 (JPG) Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch JpegIFOffset - 5108 JpegIFByteCount - 4834 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited

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imgur resized the image to 2285 x 1714 for some reason.  Would love to find a site that doesn't resize things.

Anyone who wants to see the full size image, PM me with an email address.

Yes, I am the one who brought up the 720p example. I brought it up because the concept of larger pixels and lower ppi seemed foreign to you guys. I simply was offering some pretty poor scenarios that you guys should/could have seen first hand in real life. I asked have you ever noticed the text starting to look funny and you were the one that responded "You can't possibly be serious with that statement."

As if we need to go back thru how we got here, those post are on this very page

Anyway, you can be 100% fine with the text on your TV. And i have maintained from the start that this is subjective, what you may find acceptable is all on you.

The text looking funny, I am very sensitive to that. Your picture, do you have cleartype on? Cleartype sub pixel tricks look terrible to me on a low ppi screen. The letters have a funny glowing hue to them.

Your picture, specifically.
The S's, the Y's, the g's, the y's, the o's, the x's, even the i's and L's.

they are fuzzy and whacky, at least to me. I have no idea how you are not seeing it. But I read the text and circled the fuzzy lettering i cant stand. It starts messing with my head so while the smaller letters look worse, i didnt waste a lot of time on them.


http://i.imgur.com/qfx1KJx.jpg

Anywho,

I dont care to argue. You should know though, the differences between preference, opinion, and fact.
Fact is, you dont seem to be bothered by the low PPI text one bit. Opinion, it is perfectly fine for everyone. It absolutely is not. My screen is 82ppi, far higher than your TV, and I find it barely acceptable when it comes to text.

I have TVs, the only TV size that i have ever used that had great text- a 20" 1080p TV that is in my daughters room.

I have a samsung smart TV that connects straight to my PC. 46" LED 1080p panel. Looks fantastic for gaming and movies. Samsung, in my opinion, is in the top brackets when it comes to image quality. I say samsung IQ is among the best in each TVs respective class, but since this is a very subjective subject, the best is in the eyes of the individual. Doesnt really matter, I love the picture quality and it games like no other TV i have ever owned. Has all sorts of modes and settings, internet browsers, apps, even gaming mode to improve motion blur and input lag. But one thing it cannot do, it cant escape the ppi. You say its HDMI, heck.........this TV has its own internet browser.

So, when sickbeast says "you will come around"...........what you need to understand is that i have plenty of experience with this, first hand. I posted links and quotes from websites because i wanted to bring in independent sources, whos egos are not in the conversation. I have done all i can and kept the debate professional and proper. Unlike some, who seem to have went off the deep end.
If we cant have our differences and discuss them, there really isnt much point in tech forums. I dont mind others having their own opinion, I just wanted to share with you another view. I personally cant stand low ppi text.