ABT Religion Thread

[BoFox]

Bofox, why do you believe the universe is 6k yrs old?  The bible doesn't actually say this.  You have to know that that, even if you accept the bible as the word of God, the New Testament was slung together hundreds of years after Jesus.  There were many books and scrolls floating around and they just picked a few.  This wasn't a book but a collection of material from different sources, not knowing 100% where the originals were and who actually wrote them,

Counting the Jesus lineage to estimate the earth age is flawed, the two books that speak of his bloodline path don't agree.  This is a major issue.
Then, right off the bat.....in genesis, the lord says one day on earth is like 1000 yrs in heaven and one day in heaven is 1000yrs on earth.  You see, you can't trace back the time of creation like that.  The bible does not tell.....

I'm not exactly sure yet, nor do I ever know if I would know for sure, but I definitely do believe that Noah's flood took place less than 5K years ago, having read a few books replete with references and supporting evidence for such - too logical, that traditional anti-flood evolution science cannot hold a candle to science that allows for recent world-wide flood.  As to the universe, perhaps some of what we're seeing could actually be part of the heavens. 

Star creation is nowhere to be seen.  No single person has ever found evidence of a star being created.  A supernova expels only 10% of the mass, and only 2 (TWO) supernovas have ever been observed within the past 300+ years.  At this rate, we should be observing 1 supernova each year in our own galaxy, let alone millions of other galaxies (which should be flashing like fireflies mating night in the summer).  Our sun does not produce heat by nuclear fusion, but by shrinking its diameter by 5 feet per hour (which is more than enough for all the heat produced, but only enough to last for 15 million years max).  The light spectrum does not match any of the hydrogen bomb explosions - all nuclear fusion reactions give off an equally massive array of neutrinos, but the sun gives off none. 

Revelation says:  "and the whole moon became like blood; 13and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, as a fig tree casts its unripe figs when shaken by a great wind. 14The sky was split apart like a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.…" 

If God is that powerful, being God, why be surprised if God can do these things.  If God is infinite, perhaps it's a sneeze for him to just create trillions upon trillions of stars in a flash, without breaking a sweat, and then amaze us with the vastness of it all? 

Anyway, I don't really want to talk about what I believe here (which is a personal choice anyway).  I just want to discuss the specifics of what we have observed thus far, and what makes the most sense with each detail.  I don't like the topic of this thread - would like to just change it to "controversial scientific discussions" or something like that.  Oh well.  We have lots of facts and data, and having another look at them is what the world will be doing for a LONG time anyway.