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I need help calibrating my TV
(01-11-2016, 03:30 AM)BoFox Wrote: Same here, I'm known to tip upwards of 30% at times as well.  Cool
Good, wait staff are underpaid for what they do.


(01-11-2016, 03:30 AM)BoFox Wrote: Perhaps it's still relevant (how hard working...) - if you point out that you had to go to college, earn degrees, while the other guy played around then got some change out of your wallet for what you had to pay for yourself.  That guy just might be the waiter serving you at the table serving you drinks when you would just rather pour yourself some refills with a pitcher or a wine bottle rather than waiting for him and his fake grin..

No, it's still not relevant. The point is in a capitalist country you don't get to decide what your benefit package should be. I don't get any profit sharing, I don't ask Obama to tax everyone who does to give it to me. Similarly, some jobs have a HMO as part of their benefits, some do not. I get 5 weeks vacation, some guys get 2, and Sick Beast gets 12. Healthcare isn't a "right" it's a benefit earned by working at a job that provides it. (or at least it was)

(01-11-2016, 03:30 AM)BoFox Wrote: Well, times have changed.  No more slavery like the pre-Civil War days.  Public healthcare for everybody.  The poor black families cannot sue the government for the past, for their ancestors being kidnapped from Africa and abused and raped for centuries, with little to no inheritance unlike their masters who got everything they worked for.  Can you sue the government that you had to pay for healthcare when there was not a public government-funded HMO for everybody in the past....  maybe... just maybe, if you got an equally angry multi-millionaire lawyer?

Does this have anything to do the Holocaust, clubbing baby harp seals, and animal rights abuses on veal farms? No? Why didn't you bring those items up? They have as much to do with Obamacare as the Civil War and slavery. Your "argument" is totally random gibberish- has nothing whatsoever to do with healthcare. (which incidentally has nothing to do with tipping either) 

(01-11-2016, 03:30 AM)BoFox Wrote: Back to the point of it being relevant or not...  does it really matter how they got the job in the first place?  Does the job have to be employed by a restaurant business owner, and is it evil for all self-employers to get....

Yes, it's about all that matters, for several reasons.

1. If someone I work with opens his own office to compete with us, is it fair we all have to buy his healthcare plan and help him compete against us?
2. If I decide my job is spanking the monkey while watching old episodes of Petticoat Junction, and earn my living selling the tissues I clean up with to pervs online, normal people should buy me a HMO?
3. If Apoppin decides to wipe the squirrels in the park butts after they defecate, we owe him a HMO?
Etc. Unless your position is "One group of people gets to take money from another group of people because they feel like it" there is no "logic" behind socialism.

(01-11-2016, 03:30 AM)BoFox Wrote: IMHO, basic healthcare should be free and equal for everybody, regardless of race, status, or income. 
A. Health care isn't "free". Someone has to pay for it.
B. A. means that one group of people exploits another by profiting from them. That is not "equal". To be "equal" we'd all kick in a couple thousand a person and all get the same healthcare.
Obamacare isn't equal all. The workers pay more to subsidize the shirkers. BTW- that includes black, white, red, and yellow workers and shirkers. Working and shirking are equal opportunity.

(01-11-2016, 03:30 AM)BoFox Wrote: Otherwise, it's basically discrimination. 
No you're just repeatedlyu saying it's somehow linked to discrimination because you can't think of a reason working people should have to pay extra money to cover healthcare for people who quit their jobs to smoke weed all day instead of just evenings and weekends. It's ridiculous.

(01-11-2016, 03:30 AM)BoFox Wrote: Premium healthcare (like having a doctor visit at home or luxury nurse care at home), would cost extra, of course.  It's just that the whole system has been corrupt from the beginning just like with slavery along with the roots of capitalism.  How do we keep discrimination and inequality from creating victims out of families and groups of people each generation? 
These are totally separate issues and we have TONS of affirmative action type things to offer reparations for slavery. BUT- healthcare has NOTHING to do with slavery. (again)

(01-11-2016, 03:30 AM)BoFox Wrote: Like you believe, a hard working guy should get what he earns.  But yet you believe that if the restaurant doesn't pay the waiter enough, you pay more than 30% tip.  But fuck his healthcare - even if he wants to save the money to open another of the same restaurant franchise closer to where you live, and hire even better cooks?  Perhaps your 35% tip isn't really going anywhere much but to help pay for his outrageous health care bills anyway - WHILE he never gets to open that same restaurant in your neighborhood, so you have to drive 45 minutes to that favorite restaurant of yours.
What he wants to save for is his business, not reason to tax me. Why should I subsidize him opening a business and getting rich? Is he subsidizing me to help me get rich? No, than how is that fair? I want to invest more and retire earlier- WTF? Why won't the waiter chip in to help me do that?
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