[EDIT]hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? (and history of 3Dfx Rampage)

[SickBeast]

I really hope Zen is good. All this disabling of overclocking is nonsense. I'm sick of Intel's arrogance. I'm really pulling for AMD. I don't think they can pull it off but we will see. I'm expecting Sandy Bridge or maybe Ivy Bridge IPC performance. Even that is pushing it though. That being said, I think a lot of people could live with Ivy Bridge, particularly if it can clock really high (which it should on the new node).