Nvidia Threatens to Become A Monopoly

[Picao84]

What is incredible is how a few posts above you state,"
Do not commit the mistake of seeing either nVIDIA or AMD as good/bad guys. They are money making businesses driven by shareholders who assess the business success not from technological POV (most of them probably do not even understand how computers work) but from the money it brings in. " and here you assign morality to one of the ways companies maximize profit and insure their long term profitability. Why? Just to argue?

I am not assigning any morality towards nVIDIA. I am assigning it towards you, as a consumer! You, as a consumer, seems not to bother with the impacts of a monopoly on yourself! I was targeting your assumption that it is "OK" for nVIDIA to have a monopoly. Unless, of course, you are an nVIDIA employee, at which point is pointless for me to argue with you.

Why hasn't competition driven AMD to create better CPUs than intel? If Samsung invents a GPU that has 10X the processing power of the GTX980, you think Jen Hsun can hold a company meeting and say, "Invent a GPU with 11X the processing power of a GTX980 or we're sunk!"? Competition can hasten release of parts that are done, but not drive innovation/invention.

Because there is no competition on the CPU space, AT ALL? Intel has the x86 market monopoly for itself. You do not need to have a company holding 100% of the market to call it a monopoly. If one company has such a high share that undermines the other(s) one the capability to survive and thrive, you are in a monopoly! AMD is totally dominated by Intel, hence it is deprived from the necessary resources to invest and create better CPUs than Intel. Notwithstanding errors made by AMD as well, when they were on the high.

Now, your Samsung vs nVIDIA case. Yes, if Samsung or any other company would invent a GPU that has 10X the processing power of GTX980 (which is probably impossible since Samsung has absolutely no presence or expertise in the GPU market - ironically, that same situation nVIDIA is with Tegra..), nVIDIA would be forced to use all the resources it can to counter that. They would either do that or die and no company will kill itself without trying. If it would succeed or not, is another story. But without Samsung COMPETITION, it would not even try and be happy with much less of an increase generation over generation. Is this so hard to understand? Is competition the number one factor for new technology? No, we are humans, not magicians. Does it have a large impact? Yes. So please, stop your straw-man arguments and be consistent and thorough in your analyses, otherwise its pointless to have a conversation with you (why do I even try?).

I never said Nvidia was a "good guy". Nvidia is a business that will do what maximizes profit. If you want to pretend Nvidia should put your interests ahead of theirs and give you all the toys you want when you want for less than the market will bear for a price, please feel free.

See my answer to the first point. Plus, we are discussing nVIDIA having a monopoly, not nVIDIA itself. Can you not understand the difference?

Last I checked, we're free to respond to who we choose and don't owe you a response.

Of course you are. In case you did not understand, my observation was to imply that what I wrote was ignored because it went against your theory.

Seems like you do not remember the price gouge nVIDIA did with GTX280 right? The fiasco where they ended up returning money to people who bought it launch. That would not have happened at all without what? Say again? COMPETITION! They only gave money back because ATI launched the successful 4870. You have the perfect example of what happened in front of your eyes and still spew bullshit. Incredible. Worse than this, just religion.

Competition is one aspect of pricing, supply and demand is the key component. If ten video card companies can produce 1000 cards per year, but the market wants 100,000, the price will be high even though ten companies make 1000 cards for you to choose from.

Thanks for absolutely ignoring the point. Just answer the question: If AMD had not come out with 4870, would nVIDIA had reduced the price on GTX280? Or give partial refunds? You know they would not. The reasons they priced the card at $650 is because they were expecting no competition! If you what you said had more relevance than competition, they would have kept the price! Its as simple as that!

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Incredible how you see nothing wrong with slowing the release of new tech? Be an nVIDIA fan, but think for yourself as well, please.
And what common delusion about competition driving innovation? Its not a delusion, its a FACT. You are the one spewing delusions about nVIDIA being a "good guy" because it "has to".
Funny how both you and SteelCrysis completely ignored my post. Seems like you do not remember the price gouge nVIDIA did with GTX280 right? The fiasco where they ended up returning money to people who bought it launch. That would not have happened at all without what? Say again? COMPETITION! They only gave money back because ATI launched the successful 4870. You have the perfect example of what happened in front of your eyes and still spew bullshit. Incredible. Worse than this, just religion.

This post is far too emotional, IMHO. If SteelCrysis and Rollothegreat ignored your points, perhaps they felt your points were actually, well, non points. Hey, it can happen.
Anyway, I'd like to see less of this type of personal posting and more of on topic stuff, but that might just be me.
Nvidia becoming a monopoly is of course not a good thing. For us, or them. Aren't they technically a monopoly if the have 80% or more of a given market? That might possibly be just an arbitrary number I've heard floating around regarding talks like this.

FYI: This is Keysplayr. I can't seem to find the option to ad a sig. Maybe I have to reach a certain post count.

Tell me how can you have a discussion with someone without ending up personal when that person denies things that are proven facts. At that point you are not discussing opinions, but you jumped to the realm of faith. There is no objectivity in faith, only subjectivity, ergo sum, personal.