11-8-2016 Trump wins Presidency

[SickBeast]

I can't believe they let a half wit like you teach children. Makes me throw up in my mouth the way you use a tragedy that damaged children to hiss snotty childish comments about Republicans.

You see, that's the thing.  You are not only insane in the membrane, you are also insane in the brain.  I think it's only natural to want to hold someone accountable for such a horrible mistake that had such drastic consequences on so many people.  The guy needs to go to jail IMO.  So please forgive me for condemning someone who's so cheap that they would jeopardize the health and well being of hundreds of thousands of people.  You keep turning a blind eye if you want.  I don't want these idiots in my government and neither should you.  All you seem to care about is keeping some extra cash in some rich guy's pocket.  Oh noes!  If I pay 1% more taxes some of it will go to slackers!  Noooo!  The horror!

Should your family forgive you for being so cheap you bought the HiSense tv and a house in that depressing looking neighborhood in your ice rink picture? Or were you doing the best you could with what you had?

Same deal here dumbass. Their town went BROKE, the state stepped in and tried to run it with NO MONEY.

I don't forgive them or turn a blind eye, I feel sad about the whole situation for all concerned. There will certainly be lawsuits and the plaintiffs will win, but no matter what happens the people still drank chemicals basically because they had the misfortune to live in a dirt poor town because they're dirt poor.

So you don't think the state should have stepped in with some kind of funding?  I mean, the issue with what happened is that I'm sure there are rules and regulations surrounding water quality.  The simple fact that they hooked up the feed to a polluted river is just mind boggling to me.  So you think all those people should have been expected to just move away?  It's not the state's fault because the local government was broke?

I don't know.  You do have a bit of a point however the fact that a decision like this was actually made by the government is the problem.  What would have been cheaper, have the state fix the water supply, or get sued by thousands of people now?

I think it's a difficult problem and people removed from it don't understand there isn't some magic pool of money.

I work in the Detroit area at times and they tell me of things like the state itself not having enough money and the schools having to layoff off teachers, or close, not having money for current text books, no funding for kids sports and the like.

I've talked to people who have told me of the state not paying their bills.

In hindsight it's really easy to say, "Why the state should have stepped in with the money they don't have, and put in a great water system staffed by top notch people they can't pay.".

First, I want to apologize for saying you yard was depressing. I was very angry because these people are my neighbors (loosely) and the Midwest has suffered from the loss of manufacturing and the union wage scale more than a lot of the country.

The people dealing with the aftermath are not "stupid", they're not "racist", they're not uncaring. They're people trying salvage their hometowns and state in a cash poor economic climate they're not entirely responsible for.

Those "Republican idiots" you revile are just people trying to keep the water running and lights on for people who can't pay for the water and lights.

Should the people in more prosperous states be taxed to pay for Michigan?

I don't know. Should the people in more prosperous cities in Michigan be made to pay for the economic wreckage of Detroit? I don't know.

What I do know is while this may seem like stupidity on the highest order, I can pretty much guarantee there was no malice toward the poor involved.

I recently gave my son a car worth $23,000 to drive to school. If Mrs. Rollo said "F you Rollo, your rippling muscles and flat stomach are gone, and left me with just my income and half the bills, and I had to give Rollo Jr a car worth $2300 that had no airbags, would you be hissing "Stupid Republican! You should have known Rollo Jr would be hurt by that death trap!".?

I appreciate the apology.  Just for the record I would appreciate it if you would drop the name calling along with your nonsense comments about my abilities as a professional.  To be frank with you, you don't even know me.  I don't care how much we disagree on an issue, that's just not cool with me.  I was completely kidding with you with my "insane in the brain" comments and that was inspired by the video that you posted to begin with.  I'm all for some banter back and forth, I just draw the line when things get personal.  I realize that you were having a bad night or something.  Again, I appreciate the apology.

As for the debate, yes, you make some valid points.  I don't see much point in reiterating my own viewpoint at this point.  I will say, however, that I read your comments about the Detroit area and I find it heartbreaking.  I'm not saying that bigger government is the answer.  I will just say that there has to be a better way for you guys to do something.  I do know that even in our poorest communities here in Canada, our education system is top notch.  Same with our utilities (in most cases).  We did have a tainted water scandal at one point but IIRC it was due to negligence and human error.  It was not because they hooked up the main feed to a polluted source like what they did in Flint.

I see your point and yes, I will admit that as a taxpayer where I live I would be annoyed if my taxes had to go to bail out a city like Flint because they mismanaged their money or whatever.  But I will say that I would feel good at the end of the day if $10 or even $100 had to come out of my own pocket so that an entire city could have clean water.  Something could have been arranged.  A loan.  A bailout.  Something.  If the government can bail out huge banks for trillions of dollars, why can't they bail out a city when they are having a crisis like this?  Why did it have to come to this?  I would get it if they made an honest mistake but by all accounts everyone knew that the river was polluted to begin with.  The water was coming out of the taps brown and they said to keep drinking it.  The entire situation does not sit right with me.

This is the problem with Republicans and a lot of people in government in general.  They value businesses and money more than they value people.  Yes, we need businesses to drive our economy and give us all food to eat.  But at the end of the day it's our people that run our entire countries.  You have to take care of both to be successful.

At the end of the day, money is just one of the things we have. You can't take it with you when you die. IMO it's going to do a lot more good helping out the poor and the people in need in this world than it is going to do in some rich guy's bank account. Heck, the rich don't even pay taxes, they keep all their money off shore. And yet you want to tax them less? It just doesn't make sense.