03-14-2015, 05:53 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-14-2015, 06:39 PM by RolloTheGreat.)
Great post ocre!
It would be hilarious if Nvidia and/or intel were sending AMD hints or employees to try to help them make little advances.
"C'mon you knuckleheads! We've got TONS of good stuff we want to release, but if we put you out of business the government will break us up like the phone company! Can't you guys do ANYTHING!?"
People forget "AMD" never really did much of anything.
They bought NexGen after 486 days and publicly admitted they couldn't compete with intel:
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-10-21/b...-maker-amd
And they bought ATi to compete against Nvidia when ATi was basically going broke competing against Nvidia.
AMD is like an investor trying to take on the market leaders with the market followers.
(although I was a NexGen fan back in the day, and they did indeed put the smack down on intel for a couple years)
Look at what is popular with kids now for gaming- Minecraft, Clash of Clans, app games.
Tablets, phones, and chromebooks may not seem like "comparable goods" to middle aged or older gamers who spent their lives chasing resolution, AA levels, and polygon fill rates, but to the people who are 25 and younger a lot of the gaming they do has nothing to do with spending a $1000+ on a gaming pc.
An intel IGP running games at 10X7 medium detail becomes a competitor to NVIDIA if they price their products at a level people won't pay.
Some people think the fact that a small number of people will pay over $600 for a video card means everyone will if AMD assumes room temp and Nvidia sets that price.
Hardly.
The market for gaming that doesn't cost a lot of money has always been much, much larger and there is plenty of competition there. If intel and Nvidia say "All gaming hardware costs twice as much now, AMD is gone." they will find out quickly that high res doesn't mean quite as much as they thought it did.
It would be hilarious if Nvidia and/or intel were sending AMD hints or employees to try to help them make little advances.
"C'mon you knuckleheads! We've got TONS of good stuff we want to release, but if we put you out of business the government will break us up like the phone company! Can't you guys do ANYTHING!?"
People forget "AMD" never really did much of anything.
They bought NexGen after 486 days and publicly admitted they couldn't compete with intel:
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-10-21/b...-maker-amd
Quote:We never felt that we could compete with intel alone
And they bought ATi to compete against Nvidia when ATi was basically going broke competing against Nvidia.
AMD is like an investor trying to take on the market leaders with the market followers.
(although I was a NexGen fan back in the day, and they did indeed put the smack down on intel for a couple years)
Look at what is popular with kids now for gaming- Minecraft, Clash of Clans, app games.
Tablets, phones, and chromebooks may not seem like "comparable goods" to middle aged or older gamers who spent their lives chasing resolution, AA levels, and polygon fill rates, but to the people who are 25 and younger a lot of the gaming they do has nothing to do with spending a $1000+ on a gaming pc.
An intel IGP running games at 10X7 medium detail becomes a competitor to NVIDIA if they price their products at a level people won't pay.
Some people think the fact that a small number of people will pay over $600 for a video card means everyone will if AMD assumes room temp and Nvidia sets that price.
Hardly.
The market for gaming that doesn't cost a lot of money has always been much, much larger and there is plenty of competition there. If intel and Nvidia say "All gaming hardware costs twice as much now, AMD is gone." they will find out quickly that high res doesn't mean quite as much as they thought it did.