03-20-2016, 11:22 AM
(03-19-2016, 06:55 PM)BenSkywalker Wrote:Quote:In France they only work 4 days a week,
Most weeks I only work three(throwing that out there that hours is what matters- I beat Japan's average on that front and they work six ;.
Quote:Perhaps people in Europe simply aren't as greedy as those in America
Actually socialism rather definitively proves the opposite when looking at the population as a whole. If the US population as a whole was all that greedy, we'd be just as or more socialist than the other nations being discussed. The US is a democracy- if the US was all that greedy we'd go straight Euro style and force the wealthy to give the poor more. Again, this being a democracy, the fact that that doesn't happen is the most concrete evidence you can get that as a society our populace is *less* greedy than the other nations.
3 days, nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder you have time for 8 kids plus gaming!

Well, if you're so pro-capitalism, why not just remove minimum wage laws and let all of the blue collar workers have a go at the litter? Too many of them would be illegally scavenging the landfills for whatever valuables they could find, just to survive - like in some South American countries (Peru, even Brazil has a huge problem with that). It's because of democracy that we have minimum wage laws - we're indeed a democracy, but actually diminishing as a democracy in favor of global capitalism. The average lower-middle class has difficulty affording a trip to Disney World even after trying to save up for a couple years - compared to back in the 70's, even upper lower-class could afford a road trip across the country each year because the cost of living was that much lower relatively. If it were actually democracy, 50-60% of the workforce would vote for doubling of the minimum wage - the consensus would actually come to at least a 50% raise in the minimum wage.
"Democracy" is one of the most horribly misused term ever - often abused and corrupted by those who don't give a pissing shit about the guy stocking and arranging the shelves at a retail store for their buying convenience. If it helps the upper middle class make a bit more (like that Subway franchise owner), they're happy to let all of those minimum wage workers get paid even less. They consider themselves the democracy - not the majority of the population serving the employers and managers. Overall, upper-middle class workers who take no part in hiring or auditing others for personal or small business monetary gain (like college professors, pilots, Pentagon officials, programmers/engineers working for a large company, etc.) usually have a more merciful approach toward the lower-wage earners.
Meanwhile, some European countries like Norway, Iceland, Ireland, Denmark, etc. are doing amazingly well considering such relative lack of national resources like oil, agriculture, etc. compared to USA, Canada... Global capitalism should have demolished these countries, but these communities have built a tightly knit safety net for themselves - I'd actually consider these counties as far more of a democracy than the US. The democracy (at least the majority) really do want universal healthcare, free college education, higher minimum wage, etc. Even Germany (especially East Germany) could have disregarded the poor and suppressed the true democracy like the US, but just look at how East Germany has instantly transformed into one of the wealthiest nations in the world (if we still looked at E. Germany as its own independent nation). Nope, the scare tactic is really working here in America, scaring the middle class from voting for higher minimum wage, free college education, and universal healthcare, because America would fall apart if we tried to care for the poor like a true democracy (while a substantially lower percentage of the poor actually vote - with less voting power/pull as well). West Germany took poor East Germany in, and is doing even better than before as a whole. The American majority needs to wake the fuck up and look at Germany, and stop believing the scare tactics used by the richer 1/3 of the Americans saying that even 5% higher minimum wage would destroy US economy.
It's just that those with powerful influence do not understand the real solution to America coping with global capitalization taking its course. Real safety nets need to be built for would-be laid-offs who are at risk of being replaced by Chinese, Indian, Mexican workers.. Yet, those in power simply just do not give a pissing crap about the poor victims.. so far. With too much capitalist liberation running its course, America simply has to become balanced with China, in a perfect equilibrium, as totalitarian China is bowing to Hong Kong's capitalist model that brought in trillions of dollars. Remember, there is actually a very fine line in between extreme capitalism and communism - opposite ends on a scale forming a circle, for those one-dimensional tunnel visionaries. We just have to put a stop to the scare tactics propagated by global capitalists, to the government being bribed by the same and slowly bankrupting the nation turning it into a jobless welfare state - with fortified safety nets that keep the workers employed with some subsidizing along with stricter restrictions and penalties for the companies laying off workers.
I think America is just "SLOW" in lots of ways, like with high-speed train infrastructure (due around 2023, already deployed across Japan a long time ago), high speed internet infrastructure, cellular coverage, late universal healthcare (if Obamacare could actually be considered such), renewable power sources like windmills and solar panel rollouts lagging far behind so many other first-nation countries, recycling, and so on......... mentally "slow", lol!!!


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