05-04-2016, 10:38 AM
It's my prediction, Polaris 10 will not be anywhere near as fast as a 980ti. The big polaris 10 will be more like 390-390x.
I am not sure if it will even match a 390x. The will try to sell it on power efficiency and price. But idk. Nvidia will have smaller pascal chips and I fully expect that pascal could be ultra efficient as well. Especially the small chips in the lower end of the spectrum, where I think polaris 10 will be.
We really might see the gap grow this generation, with amd starting to be left behind.
Perhaps I am pessimistic. I am, really really feeling pessimistic on this. But, the clock speed is not looking very high from what we have seen when it comes to polaris. On top of the specs, the most recent specs. This is a gcn tweak, I don't see a major per core improvement. There should be some ipc improvement, I am hopeful.
But it is gcn, not a new architecture...not a major shift. It's hard for me to think that the Performance per core will change significantly. It could go up, it should actually go up. But it would have to be a major major improvement. Look at the specs, it's performance based on specs is 385ish to r9 290 at best. The improvements to GCN, I would put it at best 390x range but the clock speed disadvantages make that so hard to believe. Which may have 290x for best case performance.
And this may sound low but I think the lower the bar the better on polaris 10. Just think, it's will be much better if the chip exceeds a lower expectation rather than fall way short of a high one.
We will see where it stands. But I feel like amd may be holding back this one. Cause they know how the play this card...it's really gonna be critical . I don't think they are confident at all.
There is a lot of speculation on my part. A whole whole lot. And, I honestly wouldn't mind to be 100% wrong here. But, just look at what they have saide, the charts we have seen. They are not promoting or branding about performance. This is unique. AMD has a history of promoting performance ahead of time, in their charts. Even then, those estimates seldom aligned when the new architecture launched. This time, it's been Performance per watt and banging thus bring the cost down drum. This is the stage they are trying to set and have been testing around with. It is very telling all by itself.
I am not sure if it will even match a 390x. The will try to sell it on power efficiency and price. But idk. Nvidia will have smaller pascal chips and I fully expect that pascal could be ultra efficient as well. Especially the small chips in the lower end of the spectrum, where I think polaris 10 will be.
We really might see the gap grow this generation, with amd starting to be left behind.
Perhaps I am pessimistic. I am, really really feeling pessimistic on this. But, the clock speed is not looking very high from what we have seen when it comes to polaris. On top of the specs, the most recent specs. This is a gcn tweak, I don't see a major per core improvement. There should be some ipc improvement, I am hopeful.
But it is gcn, not a new architecture...not a major shift. It's hard for me to think that the Performance per core will change significantly. It could go up, it should actually go up. But it would have to be a major major improvement. Look at the specs, it's performance based on specs is 385ish to r9 290 at best. The improvements to GCN, I would put it at best 390x range but the clock speed disadvantages make that so hard to believe. Which may have 290x for best case performance.
And this may sound low but I think the lower the bar the better on polaris 10. Just think, it's will be much better if the chip exceeds a lower expectation rather than fall way short of a high one.
We will see where it stands. But I feel like amd may be holding back this one. Cause they know how the play this card...it's really gonna be critical . I don't think they are confident at all.
There is a lot of speculation on my part. A whole whole lot. And, I honestly wouldn't mind to be 100% wrong here. But, just look at what they have saide, the charts we have seen. They are not promoting or branding about performance. This is unique. AMD has a history of promoting performance ahead of time, in their charts. Even then, those estimates seldom aligned when the new architecture launched. This time, it's been Performance per watt and banging thus bring the cost down drum. This is the stage they are trying to set and have been testing around with. It is very telling all by itself.