Nvidia Pascal GPU has 17 billion transistors

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Okay Ocre, in no way am I saying nVidia should be doing things this way, just going to lay out an alternative path they *could* have taken which I would have found more agreeable.

GP100 is already in production, based on the information we had it was prior to GP104. Now, if they had a fully GPU functional GP100 base and started binning them from day one and launched in say August instead of May, they could have saved all the say 1/4 defective cores for Titans, 1/3 defective for 1080s, 1/2 defective for 1070s. If they had done that and then launched the GK104 parts as 1060Ti and 1060 we could be looking at this lineup-

Titan- $1K
1080- $650
1070- $450
1060Ti- $350
1060- $270

Now the x60 parts would have less and slower RAM so they wouldn't be as fast, but we'd still be looking at an overall *significantly* faster top to bottom lineup. 

Don't get it confused in any way, I completely understand *why* they do it the way they do, just saying as an enthusiast I'd rather see the big boy sooner. For the record, I had the exact same issues when the 680 launched, which I why I waited for the 780. 

If they launched with that lineup, AMD's new architecture would be looking at their highest end part fighting for fifth fastest GPU, and honestly, that would likely shut the viral marketers up which to me would be the best possible thing that could happen to enthusiast forums.

I don't think the volume capability is there at all. This massive size chip has yield and Hbm2 working against it.
I am not even sure how well capacity will be with the gp104 but I have a feeling it will sell out and be awhile before things level out.

I mean, there is no way to know for sure. But it only seems rational. If the big chip is all ready , there is no reason to hold it back. They could have the King Titan launch at 1000-1200 first and it would do absolutely nothing to hurt nvidia in gp104 sales.

They would sell far more gp104 chips if they were priced less, this you know. As does nvidia. But there is much more to consider, like capacity and how many you can sell. Seems logical that gddr5x will not be endless supply right off the bat. But again, it's speculation.

I will say this much, if nvidia had the ability to launch the gp100 in volume---there is no reason not to. The price of King titan when it comes will be a lot higher that the 1080. They would have had so much more to brag on in their pascal presentation. So so much more.

I believe the big chip is in production, it's gonna be slow roll out. That the Tesla markets are dieing for them. See, if yields are only 25%, it might still be cost worthy for them to sell chips from low yield wafers, but you better believe that nvidia will be wanting to increase yields significantly before they go to full production.

And this is besides the fact that hdm2 is beyond their control. It will have to be ramped up as well