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[EDIT]hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? (and history of 3Dfx Rampage)
Well, Thala over at ATF said:
Quote:Oh dear, please do not comment on topics, you are apparently no expert of. 
Let me first state that when idle, leakage is the single biggest contributor to power. In other use cases active power is (still) dominating. The relation between these to values however goes up with each smaller process node in favor of leakage. What you also should know is, that leakage not just doubles when moving down half a node. Leakage is one of the main effects working against Moores law.

The main reason to going to 3d transistors/FinFETs is to have more control of the geometric layout of the gate channel and the electric field controlling the channel, thus reducing leakage current significantly.
To give you some idea. 22nm FinFET has much lower leakage than 28nm planar. I estimate that 14 nm FinFET is about the same as 28nm planar for logic but already worse for SRAM. 14nm FinFET is in any case worse then 22nm FinFET, because you cannot defeat physics. 

At this point you need to think about clever designs, as for instance the big.little concept. Keep in mind Intel is already past the general FinFET/3-gate gain with respect to leakage.

Mind to enlighten me, how is this supposed to improve when going down to 10nm, even if you consider that you are using compound materials? I mean at some point you also need to reduce the thickness of the gate dielectric, where high-k materials are already used to extend Moores law.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php...count=1019

Perhaps that explains RX 480's relatively high idle power consumption, which was a bit shocking given the new 14nm tech?
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RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 09-29-2015, 09:48 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-01-2015, 02:11 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 09-29-2015, 11:01 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-01-2015, 02:15 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 09-30-2015, 05:17 PM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-02-2015, 08:55 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-06-2015, 02:01 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-04-2015, 08:32 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-04-2015, 08:44 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-07-2015, 01:53 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-08-2015, 06:33 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-09-2015, 10:39 PM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-11-2015, 07:44 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-09-2015, 10:44 PM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-10-2015, 05:51 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-10-2015, 12:06 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-10-2015, 12:15 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-10-2015, 06:02 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-12-2015, 10:42 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-13-2015, 06:54 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-13-2015, 11:12 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by ocre - 10-14-2015, 09:05 AM
RE: hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? - by BoFox - 10-17-2015, 12:13 AM
RE: [EDIT]hmmm.....whats going on at AMD? (and history of 3Dfx Rampage) - by BoFox - 07-01-2016, 03:39 PM

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