I need help calibrating my TV

[SickBeast]

2 years ago our dollar was worth more than yours and I could have said the exact same thing about your government.

Once the price of oil rebounds our dollar will be worth more again, just watch.

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[BenSkywalker]

2 years ago our dollar was worth more than yours and I could have said the exact same thing about your government.

You would have been right....? Our financial policy was an absolute disaster, it isn't pretty now, in fact it is rather shockingly poor, better than your nations by a sizable margin but to be fair, your nations financial policy is much better than some larger economies- like California's(roughly 10% larger then Canada in both GDP and population).

It's cold where you live, that means your cost of living is going to be higher. Road maintenance is considerably more costly, housing standards are much higher(the level of insulation, strength of the roofs required where we live etc), food costs are going to be higher(shorter growing season, higher transportation costs). If you compare the southern US to the northern the south is considerably cheaper in terms of cost of living.  

Dynamic contrast is evil.

For my TVs, dynamic anything is evil

[SickBeast]

Oh look, another ignorant American troll spreading misinformation and lies! I will say the same to you that I just said to Rollo, Ben. Please don't speak if you have nothing nice to say about my country and you're going to post blatant lies and misinformation.

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...ted+States

Consumer Prices in United States are 14.43% higher than in Canada
Consumer Prices Including Rent in United States are 22.17% higher than in Canada
Rent Prices in United States are 42.38% higher than in Canada
Restaurant Prices in United States are 15.30% higher than in Canada
Groceries Prices in United States are 16.58% higher than in Canada
Local Purchasing Power in United States is 4.26% higher than in Canada

You guys have got to realize by now that your logic has to be flawed if you're forced to post misinformation to try to support your crazy ideologies.

[SickBeast]

And here, for good measure, for Rollo:

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...olis%2C+MN

Consumer Prices in Minneapolis, MN are 21.61% higher than in Toronto
Consumer Prices Including Rent in Minneapolis, MN are 22.08% higher than in Toronto
Rent Prices in Minneapolis, MN are 23.01% higher than in Toronto
Restaurant Prices in Minneapolis, MN are 7.54% higher than in Toronto
Groceries Prices in Minneapolis, MN are 40.41% higher than in Toronto
Local Purchasing Power in Minneapolis, MN is 3.35% higher than in Toronto

And that's comparing to Toronto, our largest city and one of our most expensive cities. I think Toronto is #2 after Vancouver for cost of living expense.

[RolloTheGreat]

SickBeast, man of the people.

"If we all share equally in the fruits of our labor, we will live in Canada!"

[SickBeast]

I guess that's your sad admission that you are wrong. I think apoppin is right Rollo. You have faulty AI.

[RolloTheGreat]

I guess that's your sad admission that you are wrong. I think apoppin is right Rollo. You have faulty AI.

Oh noes! An uneducated eccentric loner living out in the desert espousing homeopathic remedies while he endlessly runs benchmarks to get some free video cards thinks I'm a damaged robot!

Gosh, what will I do?!

[BenSkywalker]

Oh look, another ignorant American troll spreading misinformation and lies!

http://www.investopedia.com/financial-ed...-home.aspx

Please don't speak if you have nothing nice to say about my country and you're going to post blatant lies and misinformation.

Brag about your schools? Your nation's best would rank third in one fucking town in the US.  


http://www.usnews.com/education/best-glo...int=a27a09

You have a whopping one school that makes it into the top 30.

You lick the rectum of your corporate overlords taxing them at a fraction of the rate you sodomize the poor for. You can make just under half a million dollars and pay a significantly lower rate than those you make an order of magnitude more from. Now you can try and lie your way through this again, I've linked your lunatic right wing fiscal policy for you repeatedly- no matter how many times I prove you an ignorant liar you just can't get it through your head. Must be that helmet head education system you backwater hillbillies have.

And here, for good measure, for Rollo:

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...olis%2C+MN

This is funny, did you check your own link? 26% more disposable income living in the US- your link backed up what Rollo said in the first place. I guess math isn't one of those things they teach you guys?

[SickBeast]

So you have 26% more disposable income yet things cost 21% more?  Big whoop.

As for the schools, we have 1/10 the population of the USA so basically you can factor that single school by 10, so on a level playing field we would have 10 schools in the top 30.  That's pretty damn good when you compare $5,000CAD tuition to $45,000USD to go to Harvard.  Normal people can afford good schools here.  That's the difference.  In the USA you have to come from a very wealthy background to get a good education.

Also, Rollo said that the cost of living was higher in Canada. I proved him wrong with the link.

You guys are both so caught up in your stupidity that there is no reasoning with either one of you.

[RolloTheGreat]

The problem is that he has AI in the first place.

Humans are meant to have intelligence, not artificial intelligence.

You should go ask the Sage Hobo Apoppin. Remember, this is all a "simulation" so maybe it's all AI?

[SickBeast]

I wish you were part of a simulation Rollo. I really do. Unfortunately you are very real. :(

[SteelCrysis]

I wish Ben was a sociopath, he would be a better person.

[SickBeast]

They're both driving me crazy with their nonsense.

[RolloTheGreat]

They're both driving me crazy with their nonsense.

I can't speak for Ben, but personally if discussing things on the internet was "driving me crazy" I wouldn't do it.

People have different perspectives on things, and you can't control that.

You posted some self reported numbers as "evidence" it's cheaper to live in Canada or at least than Minneapolis, at the point in time the people reported, if they reported accurately.

I don't consider this proof of anything. I looked at prices at the same vendor for the same item in Canada and the US. I posted web journalism articles to the contrary for the countries as a whole.

You used AMD like defense on the colleges. ("Well if Canada was actually a big country we'd have more good colleges too" (not one in the top 30) and "Canada Universities are a darn good value")

I don't think Canada is some Hell hole. I think Canada is probably where I would move if I left the US. However; that doesn't mean I approve of socialism or the taxes it imposes on you guys, or the high cost of things there.

[RolloTheGreat]

Oh look, another ignorant American troll spreading misinformation and lies!

http://www.investopedia.com/financial-ed...-home.aspx

Please don't speak if you have nothing nice to say about my country and you're going to post blatant lies and misinformation.

Brag about your schools? Your nation's best would rank third in one fucking town in the US.  


http://www.usnews.com/education/best-glo...int=a27a09

You have a whopping one school that makes it into the top 30.

Sweet!

I graduated from the 26th best college on the planet!

Amazing how US colleges dominated that list, and you pretty much destroyed SB's assertions their "Bear Paw Universites" are the equal of US Ivy league. If anything that list is great evidence of how good our private and public schools are.

[SickBeast]

Rollo the real problem is that you never admit it when you're wrong. I disproved both you and Ben when it comes to cost of living and taxes in Canada, yet both of you still persist. Ben swears and acts like an idiot to boot. So basically I don't want anything more to do with either of you. I will be taking a break from ABT at least until BoFox and Ocre come back so that I can have meaningful discussions with people who can actually have a civil discourse.

[dmcowen674]

I will be taking a break from ABT at least until BoFox and Ocre come back so that I can have meaningful discussions with people who can actually have a civil discourse.

Where did Bofox & Ocre go???

[SickBeast]

I will be taking a break from ABT at least until BoFox and Ocre come back so that I can have meaningful discussions with people who can actually have a civil discourse.

Where did Bofox & Ocre go???

I'm pretty sure that they both said that they are going to be very busy for awhile.

[RolloTheGreat]

Rollo the real problem is that you never admit it when you're wrong. I disproved both you and Ben when it comes to cost of living and taxes in Canada, yet both of you still persist. Ben swears and acts like an idiot to boot. So basically I don't want anything more to do with either of you. I will be taking a break from ABT at least until BoFox and Ocre come back so that I can have meaningful discussions with people who can actually have a civil discourse.

When you start being right, I'll admit I'm wrong.

You're always saying inaccurate things like "You have to be wealthy to get a degree in the US!".

I live within 1 hour drive time of 4 state system universities, including within 20 minutes of that one that is better than every college in Canada except one. That one is the most expensive at $10K a year tuition, so my son could live at home and get a degree from the 26th best college in the world for the cost of a nice car.

Or that crazy "Our universities are like your Ivy League!" assertion. Turns out you guys only have one measly college in the 30 best in the world, and our state schools lead the world just like our Ivy League does.

It's pretty obvious the things subsidized by the taxes I complained about will be cheaper (university/health care) but I can pull a lot of articles that say your groceries, imported goods, and housing costs more. (and is harder to afford because you guys make the same and the money is worth less)

The military you revile basically lets you sleep at night. The three guys with shotgun and pickup truck with some sheet metal bolted to it for shields army you guys have couldn't protect the town I live in.

We dominate you in tech.

Most of all, if the USA needed to be self sufficient, we could be. Have our own energy, manufacturing, food production, the means to defend it.

If the shit hits the fan, you'll rely on us hated Americans.

[SickBeast]

Rollo the real problem is that you are convinced that everything you have is better than everyone else. Your house is better. Your cars are better. Your education is better. Your country is better. And then you like to rub that in everyone else's face, whether it is true or not. Basically you seem like an average middle class schmoe to me. I could go on and on about how my life is way better than yours but I don't really see the point.

This is really the messed up part of your psyche that drives everyone else crazy. You convince yourself that something is better than something else. It usually involves something that you own. Lately that has been the Xbox One but going back over the years it has typically involved Geforces and such.

Basically I think you need to grow up and accept that other people are going to make different choices than you and they are equally valid. You have always trashed apoppin because he didn't go to university however it seems to me that he has lived a full and interesting life. You can think that the way you did things is better but the reality of the matter is that everyone is going to make their own choices to suit what they want to get out of life.

I know that for me personally I'm very excited that I'm going to be able to retire at the age of 57 with one of the best pensions in the world. My house will be paid and I will be able to afford to buy a small home somewhere else where I can enjoy the sun during our long winters.

If you're happy in Minnesota with what you have, more power to you. You're not going to change my opinion on the fact that I believe Canada is a better place to live, though. Yes, our low dollar sucks right now but it will go back up eventually. It was not that long ago that our dollar was worth more than the $USD.

You talk about how we need your military. How about how you guys need our resources? Our nations are interdependent. A lot of people think that one day we will merge. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

[RolloTheGreat]

You're pretty emotional for a school teacher SB.

Aren't you guys/gals supposed to be pretty even tempered?

(shrugs)

You're free to think of me as you will, doesn't change my life in any way.

[SickBeast]

You're pretty emotional for a school teacher SB.

Aren't you guys/gals supposed to be pretty even tempered?

(shrugs)

You're free to think of me as you will, doesn't change my life in any way.

Your response to my above post is that I'm too emotional? For pointing out that you are difficult and that you think you're right about everything no matter what? I guess the truth hurts. IMO my responses to you have generally been on an even keel. I don't know what you're expecting of other people. It's always a one way argument with you, Rollo. You never back down and you think you know it all. I have news for you:

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET FRUSTRATED BY THAT. DEAL WITH IT OR STOP IT WITH YOUR NONSENSE.

[RolloTheGreat]

You're pretty emotional for a school teacher SB.

Aren't you guys/gals supposed to be pretty even tempered?

(shrugs)

You're free to think of me as you will, doesn't change my life in any way.

Your response to my above post is that I'm too emotional?  For pointing out that you are difficult and that you think you're right about everything no matter what?  I guess the truth hurts.  IMO my responses to you have generally been on an even keel.  I don't know what you're expecting of other people.  It's always a one way argument with you, Rollo.  You never back down and you think you know it all.  I have news for you:

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET FRUSTRATED BY THAT.  DEAL WITH IT OR STOP IT WITH YOUR NONSENSE.

You think anything you say to me "hurts" me?



You're a high school teacher in another country that appears to have problems with controlling your emotions. I feel kind of bad for you, but I'm certainly not angry with you or thinking I need to change my ways.

Let me explain it to you:

If my father, son, wife, best friend says to me, "Rollo, your communication style is abrasive, I'm finding it hard to deal with you." I would listen carefully to what they say and discuss the matter with them.

You're a random guy on the internet with a hard on for mouthing off to me. Why would I care what you think?

I'm starting to think you're under some sort of stress, probably mid-life crisis. Happens to most of us in one way or another.

I don't care if my stuff and my choices are better than yours, or anyone's.

I'm pretty happy with how things turned out for me, and that's all that really matters in life in my opinion. If you try to impress or please others you'll mainly end up disappointed. My wife taught me that a long time ago.

[SickBeast]

I'm not under any kind of stress or having some kind of crisis. You're nuts. That's the problem. You drive everyone crazy. It's not me, it's you.

[RolloTheGreat]

I'm not under any kind of stress or having some kind of crisis.  You're nuts.  That's the problem.  You drive everyone crazy.  It's not me, it's you.

Uh huh.

You think it's "normal" to make multiple posts with my name as the title, post dozens of times on multiple forums about how I "drive you crazy", and make wild, baseless accusations that I'm alcoholic/addicted/uneducated/unsuccessful/mentally ill?

You're pretty fixated on me given we've never met and never will.

Here's a tip: If you don't like my opinions of socialism or XBones, don't read them? They seem to upset you.

[RolloTheGreat]

Here is an even better tip Rollo, don't post your opinions on socialism in threads about adjusting tv's (or consoles or any other thread that does not directly discuss socialism)!

Like I said, they do a good job selling you guys on how wonderful it is to subsidize slackers. I suppose when you're paying $454 for $340 items day in day out you either drink the koolaid and jump on the "I'm savin' the world" train or it runs you over:


http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...-_-Product

I guess I wouldn't want it pointed out to me either.

[SickBeast]

Holy cow Rollo. Our dollar has dropped in value because of OPEC. It has nothing to do with socialism or "slackers".

For someone with two degrees you are very dense. I'm surprised you were able to learn anything at all. I will say, however, that taking two entire degrees sounds pretty stupid and like a waste of time. I'm guessing your marks were so bad that you couldn't get into grad school.

[RolloTheGreat]

Holy cow Rollo.  Our dollar has dropped in value because of OPEC.  It has nothing to do with socialism or "slackers".

For someone with two degrees you are very dense.  I'm surprised you were able to learn anything at all.  I will say, however, that taking two entire degrees sounds pretty stupid and like a waste of time.  I'm guessing your marks were so bad that you couldn't get into grad school.

I'm starting to wonder if you are what you say you are at all, although it doesn't really matter.

A school teacher saying education is a waste of time is "pretty stupid" and a "waste of time"?

That's sort of like OPEC saying, "You don't need any oil! Ride your fucking bike!"

Anyway, looks to me like your import tariffs mainly run 7-20%. As your income taxes are comparable to ours, who do you think the money is for? Rich guys like you?

[RolloTheGreat]

BTW SB, for someone with keen powers of observation that basically stalks me, odd you say I live in Minnesota when I've referenced living in Wisconsin many times here. (including in this thread)

[SickBeast]

Stalking you? I could really care less about you Rollo. I want you banned, that's not stalking. Clearly by not even remembering where you live it shows you how little I care.

I never said education was stupid, either. I just said that the way you went about it was stupid. You would have been way better off going to grad school.

[SteelCrysis]

Will the two of you shut up?

[SickBeast]

Can I not just point out Rollo's stupid life choice? He does it to everyone else. It serves him right.

[RolloTheGreat]

Can I not just point out Rollo's stupid life choice?  He does it to everyone else.  It serves him right.

Meh. It's Christmas, I'm not going to turn the dark side loose.

Happy holidays to you and your family Sick Beast.

[SickBeast]

Same to you Rollo.

[BenSkywalker]

So you have 26% more disposable income yet things cost 21% more?  Big whoop.

Again, using *your* link- housing is 56% to 64% more expensive- the single greatest cost is *significantly* more expensive using *your* numbers. It appears that your approach to discourse is to try and find numbers you *think* back you up, without any regard whatsoever as to educating yourself on reality. 

As for the schools, we have 1/10 the population of the USA so basically you can factor that single school by 10, so on a level playing field we would have 10 schools in the top 30.

I can play that game too

I live in New England, we have roughly 5% of the US population and 10% of the top 30- so we have 60 schools in the top 30 using Canadian math, I like this game

That's pretty damn good when you compare $5,000CAD tuition to $45,000USD to go to Harvard.

There are three colleges in the town I live in, randomly checked the largest of them, tuition is $10K. I could compare the cost of McDonalds down the street to what I paid last time I got had dinner at the Skylon and it would look pretty bleak for you too- using the kind of logic that is dominating your post perhaps I should? Sorry, can't actually do it, that level of intellectual dishonesty does nothing but drag the median down.

In the USA you have to come from a very wealthy background to get a good education.

Harvard is a name you like to throw out, do you know anything, anything at all, about the actual education system in this country? Given your shocking ignorance on your own nations' tax policies- regressive to an absurd degree outside of a pocket of working class bees that behave like good puppets for their corporate overlords, I am assuming you know close to nothing. Let's just say if you put the work in and have the ability you can go almost anywhere in the US to school that you want.

Also, Rollo said that the cost of living was higher in Canada. I proved him wrong with the link.

No, you absolutely didn't. You showed that the cost of New York City was higher then the average prices in Canada. Outside of micro nations, it is rather safe money that the cost of living in New York City is higher then *ANY* nation. Go ahead- check your links again- little blue i tells you where they base their US costs on. The second link you provided showed that the US was considerably cheaper for cost of living- you were just cheaper on some luxury elements(renting a tennis court, sure- but tough luck if you want a place to live). You tried this same crap with your claims that Canada has a more progressive tax system- in the US our rich pay more, from a little more to *WAY* more and our corporations pay more then double on the national level. Yet you try and cling to the premise that you are progressive because of your little class warfare based "the guy that makes a little more then me pays a little more"- while the corps who make billions pay a fraction of the rate.

You guys are both so caught up in your stupidity that there is no reasoning with either one of you.

Your link says you are wrong and we are correct. YOUR NUMBERS.

It is not my fault you are incapable of reading a chart meant for a child. This is not a reasoning issue. It is fucking math. Right/wrong. Your numbers, the ones you chose to quote, say you are wrong. *I* went back and found an article from when the currency exchange rate was in your nations favor as much as it has ever been- trying to see any way in which your side of the discussion may have a hint of truth to it. There was none. Nothing. 

 Ben swears and acts like an idiot to boot.

I was being civil until you started running your little ignorant bitch mouth.

[SickBeast]

Ben and Rollo, you should both read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/23/inside....html?_r=1

My household makes just over $250,000 here in Canada. One of the best bargains I get for my money is living in a place where I and everyone I know sends their kids to public schools because they are really good. We end up with few criminals, because students learn how to be productive good citizens in schools.

A second bargin I get is universal health care. Great care (rated well above the American system in most measures) whenever you need it without worry about not being approved. It all comes at a bargain price of about 50% of the cost of the US health system.

A third bargain is the modernizing infrastructure. Cities in Canada are building new commuter train systems, rebuilding old overpasses and other roadways, building new schools, new recreation centres, etc. We are not quite like a new city in China, but we are not the decrepit cities of the USA where governments are shutting the lights out at night because they have no money. In Canada, we realize that we can't live off of the work of our grandfathers forever.

A forth bargin is the right of Canadian mothers (or fathers) to spend a decent period of time with their children when they are born. With one year maternity leave, we can ensure that parents and kids bond and families have some time to look after one another. I personally think it preserves a lot of marriages. (the pay is about 60% your full pay for the year so it is still a financial sacrifice).

Speaking of marriage, I am glad that my tax dollars don't go to perverse things like trying to stop gay people from getting married or raising children together - what a waste.

The next bargin is public universities - a place where my children and the children from all types of households can go to and graduate with a big debt, but not a devistating one.

Lastly (there are more, but I have to get back to my work), we get governance. This includes a banking system that is there to support the economy, not end run it to make a few $$.

With all of that said, I have to say that along with this, I enjoy one of the free-est countries on earth. Our business freedoms are as extensive as the USA. We are free to hunt and own guns (aside from assault weapons and who needs those anyways). IN fact, I have lived in the USA and I have to say, I can't see any freedoms there that we don't have here.

Oh yeah, and my total tax bill is about 2% higher than it would be in the USA. To me, its a bargain!

[RolloTheGreat]

It's not Christmas these days.

GStan, why would reading some Canucklehead boast, "I only pay 2% higher tax and get free healthcare and subsidized schools" anger us? He straight out says he pays $5000 more in taxes, leaves out the higher housing costs, and import duty taxes that make his day to day more costly?

SB: Props for bringing the "Should have been a school marm" defense, but no thanks. Your choices don't appeal to me any more than mine probably appeal to you. I think teaching is one of societies more honorable and needed professions, but seriously, telling people "You're a schmuck because you're not a teacher like me?"

Sheesh.

[SickBeast]

LOL at Rollo playing games with the numbers again.

[RolloTheGreat]

You will never understand, Rollo.  You have proven yourself incapable of understanding many times on this subject.

You abuse society only looking for what it can do for you (and your blood tribe as you termed it), not what you can do for it.

I'll tell you what Gstan.

My "blood tribe" (AKA "household") is already paying a lower middle class family net income in taxes for society.

When yours is paying as much (or more) I'll give your thoughts on the matter some consideration.

You'll have to pardon me if I have a hard time paying more than what about half country nets and being told,"You should be giving more, you don't deserve any of that money you and your wife earned by working your way through college and then slaving away to get ahead.".

In my humble opinion, they should make the sacrifices and spend the money we have and help themselves rather than looking to people like us to pay more. I don't mind paying a lot for very young, very old, and disabled people. I do mind paying for people who "just don't feel like working at a normal job" and don't really care if they believe I should fund their choice to be a "internet tech site", "ebay entrepreneur", or "social media consultant".

If you want me to take you seriously on this, you/your wife need to pay as much in as we do and still be saying, "We should be doing more!". You don't see me saying, "Hey you guys paying $100K in taxes, you should be helping the poor some more, they don't have as much as you!". I know they already pay a lot, and most of the taxes gathered.

In this country, those of us in the top 20% are already paying 84% of the tax.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/top-20-of-ea...1428674384

[BenSkywalker]

My household makes just over $250,000 here in Canada.

Oh yeah, and my total tax bill is about 2% higher than it would be in the USA.

250,000 * .02 = 5,000

LOL at Rollo playing games with the numbers again.

Uhm, in the US we call that math....? I completely don't understand what you are saying with Rollo playing the numbers game.

We end up with few criminals, because students learn how to be productive good citizens in schools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nhcrime.htm

I can't find decent data at the moment for Canada's crime rate, loathe to use Wiki for anything so conflicting numbers are welcome, but based on what those said crime is significantly lower where I live.

but we are not the decrepit cities of the USA

So they aren't Detroit....? Seriously the guy sounds like that is the only place in the US he's ever been.

Our business freedoms are as extensive as the USA.

Oh hell no- Canada is paving corporations paths with blow jobs. You guys take it up the rear without lube for corporations- you are pretty much a corporate bitch state that screws over its' people to prop up you lords up high in their corporate offices. We've been over this- your country is *WAAAAYYYYY* to the right of the US on that front- on a comical level.

Both articles are guaranteed to give both Rollo and Ben fits...

Any policy that places corporations before people has my ire. You going on record saying that corporations should be given more rights then people Gstan? That has been what I have been arguing against from day one. If *people* are taxed at a higher rate then *corporations* I have a serious fucking problem with it.

Bill Gates is curing the world of polio and malaria.

Apple is saving labor costs installing safety nets so their sweat shop employees can't kill themselves.

Yeah, you go ahead and champion the corporations if you want. I'll be on the other side where rational people belong.