HBM2 memory not available in retail until 2017?

[BoFox]

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-gpu-navi-hbm2-2017-2018/


Nvidia is also launching Pascal GP104 without HBM2 for this summer (probably in 2 months or so)...

Those slides by AMD are literally admitting that HBM2 won't be available for us until at least the beginning of 2017. 


What about GDDR5x?  I'd still be excited about GDDR5x, since it's double GDDR5 (which should've been conveniently called "QDR", or Quad-Data-Rate rather than G-DoubleDataRate5).  GDDR5x would simply be "Octa-Data-Rate".  

HBM might have gotten the greatly advertised benefits of power savings (enabling the Fury cards to do that much better over Hawaii without taking much more wattage), but then next-gen HBM2 consumes roughly the same amount of power as GDDR5..  yet with smaller PCB space/tracing requirements and silicon real estate..


Do you guys think the Pascal and Polaris cards by NV and AMD for the entire year of 2016 would be featuring GDDR5X?

[RolloTheGreat]

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-gpu-navi-hbm2-2017-2018/


Nvidia is also launching Pascal GP104 without HBM2 for this summer (probably in 2 months or so)...

Those slides by AMD are literally admitting that HBM2 won't be available for us until at least the beginning of 2017. 


What about GDDR5x?  I'd still be excited about GDDR5x, since it's double GDDR5 (which should've been conveniently called "QDR", or Quad-Data-Rate rather than G-DoubleDataRate5).  GDDR5x would simply be "Octa-Data-Rate".  

HBM might have gotten the greatly advertised benefits of power savings (enabling the Fury cards to do that much better over Hawaii without taking much more wattage), but then next-gen HBM2 consumes roughly the same amount of power as GDDR5..  yet with smaller PCB space/tracing requirements and silicon real estate..


Do you guys think the Pascal and Polaris cards by NV and AMD for the entire year of 2016 would be featuring GDDR5X?

I think Pascal will launch with 4GB of HBM1 and a noisey water cooler after NV saw how well that worked for AMD.

You must buy one BoFox!

[SteelCrysis]

I already posted about this in the AMD thread, but thanks anyway.

[BoFox]

And then there's NextGen Memory in 2018:



Hmmm?  Something new?