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11-8-2016 Trump wins Presidency
#81
(08-15-2015, 09:20 PM)ocre Wrote: But you are all for killing a bunch of semens?  

That is what brings the life to the egg.   Otherwise it is just an egg.......an empty egg that does nothing.  A semen is the life.  It struggles and fights a million times harder than you can ever imagine, carrying life to that egg which it enters and a human is formed.  The journey that seamen make is an endurance testament far beyond the struggles humans have living in our modern civilizations.  

So, Bofox!!!!!
You are all for killing semens, the actual living and moving life that is the spark for human life!!!!

Thats awful

You hypocrite, sending off all of your soldiers marching to death, except for the hopeful one that finds the golden egg!
Ok with science that the big bang theory requires that fundamental scientific laws do not exist for the first few minutes, but not ok for the creator to defy these laws...  Rolleyes
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#82
(08-15-2015, 10:51 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote:
(08-15-2015, 06:56 AM)BoFox Wrote: Are you serious???  It's like killing babies because mothers decided they couldn't afford feeding them, or no longer wanted them...  and that we should give them the money to buy guns to kill their babies with?

While women still get to enjoy reproductive freedom, there are all kinds of birth control methods out there that are provided for free by healthcare clinics.  If women decide to change their minds later on, it should be their responsibility, not that of health care's.  If we shift the responsibilities, then we're only encouraging women to be more careless with becoming pregnant and then changing their minds later on.  I wouldn't want to be paying my own tax dollars for the deaths of these fetuses in the wombs of irresponsible women.

I think we can safely assume the women having abortions didn't want to get pregnant, and the guy who didn't wear a condom has half the responsibility.

If you don't want to pay a few hundred for the unwanted kid's abortions, how do you feel about a hundred thousand for their AFDC with mom or in orphanage?

Or a few hundred thousand for their more likely future incarceration?

That's what we're talking about here.

Not "Mrs. Rollo doesn't want to have another baby because then we'd have to come up with $200K for college instead of $100K.".

https://www.guttmacher.org/media/infogra...poor2.html

We're talking about 3/4m - 1m abortions a year, with 42% of them below the federal poverty line.

I don't think abortion is a "good" thing, or "pleasant".

I think it's the lesser of two evils and that if outlawed we would have:

300-400K more unwanted kids in poverty.

A spike in women dying from illegal abortions.

And a corresponding spike in the crime rate, because again, it isn't kids like Rollo Jr sitting in our prisons for the most part. It's unwanted kids of fuck up parents.

You can't have it with both ways.

It's my opinion EVERY kid should be wanted and provided for by the parents.

So, it's ok to kill these babies if the statistical probability of them succeeding with a 4.0 GPA in high school and entering an Ivy League college is less than half of those whose parents can afford to pay for abortions on their own? 

What about euthanasia, then?  Why are doctor-assisted suicides still so taboo when it could save us billions of dollars a year in wasted health care costs for the gravely ill patients?  It's because human life, with a beating heart, shouldn't be wasted on ALL of our hands - especially not if even 33% of us don't want to have our tax dollars going towards waste of human lives on our own part (whether it is fetuses, or super-depressed folks wanting to be put to sleep by the doctor). 

Chins up - you see that it wouldn't be too much of a problem if it weren't for the immigrants bringing in a huge massive plethora of "unwanted" leechers on the society.

Right now, I'm having a hard time finding a reliable auto tire service that performs wheel rotations, balancing, and alignments for at least a few years without having to change places.  I'd just like to stick to one at say, Costco, so that when they do the work on my car, I can just go shopping in the meantime or walk over to other stores in the plaza to do some more grocery shopping, etc.  However, these damn Spanish-speaking immigrants just bolted the tires too tightly onto the rotors, warping the rotors and deforming the threads in the wheel nuts.  Plus they were not even balanced properly at all - the leads were actually not present in 2 of the tires.  It was actually the Hispanic Spanish-speaking manager who did part of the work on my car, so there was no way for me to dispute it in that store department.  So, out of curiosity, I looked around at the local Michelin tires shop, Goodyear, Firestone, etc..  and they were all plagued with these immigrants (and I checked online, and saw overwhelming consumer complaints about the same issues that I experienced).  It was even hit-and-miss with some of the major car dealerships, in Montgomery County, MD - which has the 3rd highest median household income for any counties in the US.

I never had any problems like that before in poorer towns with white rednecks working at minimum wage.  They would all do the job properly, treating my car with respect.  It was always reliable anywhere where there was not an immigration problem.   Now, I have to look around real hard, crossing my fingers that I won't have a careless (and ultimately indifferent) foreign-language speaking immigrant bolting on the screws way past the torque specs and then denying any responsibility for it, claiming the issue to have already been present before working on the car. 

We seriously have enough of these immigrants in many parts of the nation.  If we suddenly put a stop to all uneducated immigrants right now, the remaining uneducated ones would eventually dissipate across the nation and end up flipping burgers at each and every McDonald's for the rest of us, no problem, and we'd all be better off that way.
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#83
Trump trump trump
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#84
I always knew that Trump doesn't actually want to be President.  

He's a playboy first and foremost.  

Why did he host the Apprentice TV show series, if he were a billionaire already?  Fame.  Popularity.  Fun.  Blowing up his Trump image.

Now he's doing exactly the same thing.  Running for President - he can afford it, no problem.  

He's not really serious about it.  Just for fun.  For example:





See, anybody serious about wanting to be President does NOT do that.  Just read between the lines and know that he's going to screw like this (MUCH worse at the end), to make sure he does not get voted President if it comes down to the final debate.

He's already directly violating the first amendment by saying that all Muslims should be banned from traveling to US.  And he's not ever regressing or correcting his own actions.  There's just NO way for him to become President already proclaiming willful violation of the First Amendment.  

Like the Clintons said, Trump is entertainment.  Hillary's gonna win, although I do not want her as President.

(And I'm NOT a Muslim myself, just so you guys know, lol.)

EDIT - Being a president is simply too labor-intensive for Trump who just needs to play golf or go on a cruise or lounge around at a brothel in Las Vegas. If it were just for 1 year, he might be able to do it, but he just cannot imagine doing it for 4 years. It's far too serious for him. Going to all of those gravely serious congress meetings, etc.. nah, no way Trump. Go back to your own casino and have some gin and tonic.
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#85
Immigration isn't actually covered under the First Amendment, and I don't see Hillary getting the nomination. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was meant to prevent establishment of officially or unofficially sanctioned religions, and I don't think Trump is thinking about deportation or internment of Muslims–yet.
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#86
1-18-2016

Sarah Palin endorses Donald Trump's presidential bid

"I am proud to endorse Donald J. Trump for President of the United States of America," Palin said in a statement from the Trump campaign announcing the endorsement.

She later appeared alongside Trump at a campaign event at Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa

Trump told supporters he was “greatly honored” to receive Palin’s support.

“She’s the woman that from day one I said I needed to get her support,” he said.

Trump's campaign described Palin as a conservative who "helped launch the careers of several key future leaders of the Republican Party and conservative movement." The statement also quoted Cruz as once saying he "would not be in the United States Senate were it not for Gov. Sarah Palin...She can pick winners."

Campaigning in New Hampshire, Tuesday, Cruz responded to Palin's endorsement of Trump, saying "regardless of what Sarah intends to do in 2016, I will remain a big, big fan of Sarah Palin."

Palin is expected to join Trump on Wednesday for campaign events in Norwalk, Iowa and Tulsa, Okla.
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#87
Being on the ticket as VP again is also on the table
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#88
What if Trump backs off at the very last minute (right before the final presidential debate), and tells everybody that Palin is going to take his place as the Republican candidate for President??

ROFLMAO
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#89
(01-22-2016, 12:43 AM)BoFox Wrote: What if Trump backs off at the very last minute (right before the final presidential debate), and tells everybody that Palin is going to take his place as the Republican candidate for President??

ROFLMAO
As funny as that seems, in principle it would be good to have a woman running for President for a change.
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#90
Have you forgotten about Hillary Clinton? She must be loving all this. The Republicans are really scraping the bottom of the desperation barrel if they are wheeling Palin out.
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#91
Billary down to 30% Bernie up at 63% Looking like she won't get the nomination again.
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#92
Wonder if the Republican's will wheel out Shrub and Bush Senior to endorse Trump? Don't see why not if they are willing to parade Palin in public again.
Adam knew he should have bought a PC but Eve fell for the marketing hype.

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#93
(01-22-2016, 01:34 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 12:43 AM)BoFox Wrote: What if Trump backs off at the very last minute (right before the final presidential debate), and tells everybody that Palin is going to take his place as the Republican candidate for President??

ROFLMAO
As funny as that seems, in principle it would be good to have a woman running for President for a change.

A. Race, sex, and sexual orientation have nothing to do with who should be good for an office job.
B. I've never voted for a Democrat in 30 years of voting, but when Palin was on McCains ticket I almost did.

Palin would be a joke as a president.
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#94
(01-22-2016, 05:35 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: A. Race, sex, and sexual orientation have nothing to do with who should be good for an office job.
B. I've never voted for a Democrat in 30 years of voting, but when Palin was on McCains ticket I almost did.

Palin would be a joke as a president.
All of that is true. It's just my own preference to see some woman other than Palin run for President.
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#95
(01-22-2016, 09:24 PM)SteelCrysis Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 05:35 PM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: A. Race, sex, and sexual orientation have nothing to do with who should be good for an office job.
B. I've never voted for a Democrat in 30 years of voting, but when Palin was on McCains ticket I almost did.

Palin would be a joke as a president.
All of that is true. It's just my own preference to see some woman other than Palin run for President.

If there's a woman more qualified than the current candidates, sign me up.

I will say this:

One of the things I liked about Obama's presidency was that he was a role model for a group of kids that statistically speaking have needed role models. Not as much now as days gone by, but I love how Obamma shows African American kids that they literally can be whatever they want to be in this country if they're willing to do the work.

Same would be true for Billary, although there are more women going to college now than men, so I think they may have figured this out to a greater extent than young African American men.

Obama is also proof positive the country isn't as racist as some (Ahem..Dave) seem to think it is.

In general, we've made HUGE strides in diversity in the last 40 years and I think people just need to remember that ideas, and ignorance, don't die overnight.
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#96
(01-23-2016, 12:15 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: If there's a woman more qualified than the current candidates, sign me up.

I will say this:

One of the things I liked about Obama's presidency was that he was a role model for a group of kids that statistically speaking have needed role models. Not as much now as days gone by, but I love how Obamma shows African American kids that they literally can be whatever they want to be in this country if they're willing to do the work.

Same would be true for Billary, although there are more women going to college now than men, so I think they may have figured this out to a greater extent than young African American men.

Obama is also proof positive the country isn't as racist as some (Ahem..Dave) seem to think it is.

In general, we've made HUGE strides in diversity in the last 40 years and I think people just need to remember that ideas, and ignorance, don't die overnight.
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I will also say this: it also takes support from the powerful in society to effect permanent change. I reckon the black civil rights movement had the foundation laid for its permanent success by the actions of Presidents Roosevelt and Truman. Roosevelt broke a racist strike against black transit workers in Philadelphia in 1944, and Truman desegregated the armed forces in 1948. It took 2 years to work out the details for that and start to implement it, just in time for one of my great-uncles to head off to Korea with one of the first black units to be integrated. He was one of only 5 white people in the entire unit at one point.

Truman got elected in 1948 on a civil rights platform without the votes of the South. That right there was a powerful wake-up call to the politicians that supporting civil rights was politically achievable.
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#97
I don't like Hilary Clinton actually. I never have. I can see why the guy from Vermont appeals to so many people. As crazy as Trump is I can see why people like him as well. That's the great thing about democracy. The people decide and they are never wrong. If enough people vote for Trump there will be a reason for that. The same goes if the democrats win.

As you guys know I have my own views and I'm probably way off to the left compared to all of you. I will say though that we live in special places where the people decide who is the boss. It's great and I'm looking forward to seeing who you guys all choose down there.
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#98
(01-23-2016, 01:47 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote:
(01-23-2016, 12:15 AM)RolloTheGreat Wrote: If there's a woman more qualified than the current candidates, sign me up.

I will say this:

One of the things I liked about Obama's presidency was that he was a role model for a group of kids that statistically speaking have needed role models. Not as much now as days gone by, but I love how Obamma shows African American kids that they literally can be whatever they want to be in this country if they're willing to do the work.

Same would be true for Billary, although there are more women going to college now than men, so I think they may have figured this out to a greater extent than young African American men.

Obama is also proof positive the country isn't as racist as some (Ahem..Dave) seem to think it is.

In general, we've made HUGE strides in diversity in the last 40 years and I think people just need to remember that ideas, and ignorance, don't die overnight.
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I will also say this: it also takes support from the powerful in society to effect permanent change. I reckon the black civil rights movement had the foundation laid for its permanent success by the actions of Presidents Roosevelt and Truman. Roosevelt broke a racist strike against black transit workers in Philadelphia in 1944, and Truman desegregated the armed forces in 1948. It took 2 years to work out the details for that and start to implement it, just in time for one of my great-uncles to head off to Korea with one of the first black units to be integrated. He was one of only 5 white people in the entire unit at one point.

Truman got elected in 1948 on a civil rights platform without the votes of the South. That right there was a powerful wake-up call to the politicians that supporting civil rights was politically achievable.

Agreed. Events like those and JFK sending federal troops to remove governor Wallace from the university doorway while he was saying "segregation forever!" were the beginning of the generally good climate of tolerance we have now.

People will probably always have fear and ignorance over those who not share their race, religion, culture, or sexual orientation, but we've come a LONG way to making it better.

I have a DREAM SteelCrysis, and in that dream Rollo Jr. will know a world where GStan will accept his Xbone as a valid gaming choice, like his PS4. In my dream, GStan will think my Sierra is every bit as good of a car as his Yaris!
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#99
In my dream Rollo requires a licence in order to use the Internet.
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(01-22-2016, 01:34 AM)SteelCrysis Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 12:43 AM)BoFox Wrote: What if Trump backs off at the very last minute (right before the final presidential debate), and tells everybody that Palin is going to take his place as the Republican candidate for President??

ROFLMAO
As funny as that seems, in principle it would be good to have a woman running for President for a change.

Trump only wants to do the fun part.  That's all.  Born with a platinum spoon in his mouth, spoiled playboy needs to run back to his brothel in Las Vegas when things get too serious.
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(01-25-2016, 03:03 AM)SickBeast Wrote: In my dream Rollo requires a licence in order to use the Internet.

How sad for you that you can't win a debate with me with your mental abilities, moderate me, or have me legislated out of your life.
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Are you suggesting that you require moderation? Maybe Dave can help you with that. My mod powers are strictly reserved. I did use them once on gstanford and I paid the price. I had to beg Dave multiple times to get them back and now that he finally did he somehow gave them to you as well.
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Dave, could you please change our titles to something different?  Is it possible for us to just choose our titles by customizing it?
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That's Dave own way of MAM (Mutually Assured Moderation). ROFLMAO
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So wait a second. I lobbied all that time to get my mod powers back and now you want to rename me? What do you think our titles should be, BoFox?
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You could even use the title, "Executioner". 

I just like custom titles!  "Super Moderator" is getting boring to me by now (and so is my avatar...  gotta look for another one!)
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We need to have a consensus amongst the mods.
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Ok, have it your way for a while..  but let me have my own custom title soon, please?  2 weeks is about all I can take, lol  haha.
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LOL
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Trumps pulls out of GOP debate because of Fox Moderator Megyn Kelly
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(01-26-2016, 06:48 AM)BoFox Wrote: Ok, have it your way for a while..  but let me have my own custom title soon, please?  2 weeks is about all I can take, lol  haha.

Don't know what the fuss is about, nobody is stopping you.  Perhaps you don't know how?

Just click on your username somewhere in the forum.  You should get the page in the link below.

http://i.imgur.com/B4xHxBg.jpg

Then click the "Edit this user in Mod CP" link.  You should get the page below.

http://i.imgur.com/QNcwt40.jpg

The part highlighted red is where you can change your title.

Using the Mod CP to alter anyone elses profile is an abuse of your mod powers, don't do it!  (suspending signatures of suspected spammers and removing any URL's from suspected spammer profiles excepted). Moderator actions are logged, so there is no hiding any abuse.
Adam knew he should have bought a PC but Eve fell for the marketing hype.

Homeopathy is what happened when snake oil salesmen discovered that water is cheaper than snake oil.

The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it. -- George Carlin
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We need a consensus amongst the mods. I actually think making Rollo a mod was BoFox's brain child. We will see where that one goes.

As for Trump, I think he is going to have a broad appeal in the USA regardless of whether or not he does this interview. He is invincible in a way. It reminds me of when Bush got elected.
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Americans seem to like prize clowns as Presidents, at least where Republican presidents are concerned.

They have had "Tricky Dicky" Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and Shrub.  Trump would fit right in.
Adam knew he should have bought a PC but Eve fell for the marketing hype.

Homeopathy is what happened when snake oil salesmen discovered that water is cheaper than snake oil.

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I wouldn't call Reagan a prize clown, although he had his share of goof ups.
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Realistically when you think about it, these Republican leaders are basically guys like Rollo with a ton of money. So just picture Rollo running for office. That is the mentality these guys have. So IMO they have to have a bit of a screw loose. It requires a certain level of selfishness to be a Republican.
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I totally agree.
Adam knew he should have bought a PC but Eve fell for the marketing hype.

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(01-28-2016, 08:26 AM)SickBeast Wrote: Realistically when you think about it, these Republican leaders are basically guys like Rollo with a ton of money.  So just picture Rollo running for office.  That is the mentality these guys have.  So IMO they have to have a bit of a screw loose.  It requires a certain level of selfishness to be a Republican.

Dependency does no one any good.

Look at the 3rd, 4th, 5th gen welfare families. Do you think their kids are better off than my son, having two parents who are each capable of supporting a middle class household as role models? "You go sign up at the government, and they take money from others to feed and house you. Working is too hard."

Look at women who opt to stay out of the career world and then get dumped into it when their marriages break down like half of all marriages do. How does that end up for most of them?

Personally I disagree with the Republicans on a LOT of issues. (abortion rights, religion in govt, gun rights, gay marriage, immigration laws) The Supreme Court decided on abortion, and I don't want a return to women dying in back alley abortions because they got drunk at a party or on a date and made bad contraception choices. I believe in religious freedom but separation of church and state. (render unto ceasar what is ceasars) I don't think everyone should be walking around packing firearms like the 1800s. I think gay people should have the same marital rights as anyone else, they're consenting adults not harming anyone. I think we have perfectly fine immigration laws that need to be enforced at the employer level, not by building walls. I don't think those people are what threaten the economy, I think trade laws that made importing and outsourcing more profitable than employing our own are the threat.

But underneath it all, I think you can NOT make the focus of government redistributing wealth to the poor. Government should exist to provide a safe infrastructure for business to operate in and for people to be trained to be in business.

Underneath it all is the simple truth that most of the wealth brought into the nation comes from business, most of the money that runs society comes from businesses, and most of the money that makes our neighborhoods and towns nice places to live comes from business.

If the money isn't there, you get things like what's going on in Detroit and Flint. Society scrambling to maintain services without money, huge chunks of the population poor.

Business HAS to be job one for government, and the Dems have never convinced me they see business as anything but a piggy bank to raid and give money to people who have none.

I want people to have dignity and jobs, because we are all doomed if they don't.
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Won't be too much longer before nobody outside of emergency services has a job because computers and robots will have replaced everyone in the workforce and that is where your theory will come flying apart.
Adam knew he should have bought a PC but Eve fell for the marketing hype.

Homeopathy is what happened when snake oil salesmen discovered that water is cheaper than snake oil.

The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it. -- George Carlin
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(01-28-2016, 05:06 PM)gstanford Wrote: Won't be too much longer before nobody outside of emergency services has a job because computers and robots will have replaced everyone in the workforce and that is where your theory will come flying apart.

People need to make and program computers and robots.

Some jobs require independent thought. (most worth having) Computers and robots require operators.

Automation transforms the workforce, creating and removing opportunities and it's always been that way.
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Hmmm, 320 million odd citizens in the USA currently. lets say 60% are working age, thats 192 million people needing employment. You think that programming computers and robots will need 192 million workers?!

I'd be shocked if it required more than 1 million. Machine learning is beginning to take off.
Adam knew he should have bought a PC but Eve fell for the marketing hype.

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